ear candles

[nailzoo]

I know you have been awaiting my reply

I could give you a thousand links, like I have in the past, but it bores/tires me ...

The sellers of the candles and the sellers of the service will all say positive things (thats what they do when they are making money).

So this time I'm not gonna give my opinion (the usual pack will jump on my back with candles at the ready "very dagger-esque").

Just type into Google "do ear candles remove wax"?

The answers from all the true professionals (THE SPECIALISTS & DOCTORS THAT DON'T HAVE A VESTED INTEREST) is there.

 

[collin]

hi could someone please confirm if ear candling does actually extract wax or is it an urban legend as have heard different stories

The bottom line here is that there is no scientific evidence whatsoever and heaps contraversey about these things.

That said there is no scentific evidence that a spraytan or haircut is going to make you healthier than if you hadn't bothered...we all do it to look better and therefore feel better.

I have to say that there apears to be more of a physical benifit to using these devices than say having a haircut:lol::lol:

Holistic treatments are a growing sector and one which deserves as much respect as those that undertake simply beautification treatments as those that do are more qualified than those that don't..if you get what I mean.

The facts of the matter are that millions of these devices are sold throughout the world and many of these users claim they derive a benifit from their usage.

Of particular intrest is the high usage of these devices by pilots and divers..maybe that tells you something

As mentioned before the removal of some ear wax is certainly seems to be acheived through the use of these devices...I personelly use them on a regular basis and am one of those that beleive in their beneficary atributes...even though I am not a Pilot:hug:

Hoping this helps

 

[collin]

hi ya, just thought id add that we had an ear, nose & throat specialist in to lecture at our college and he said that the yellow powder is loose residue or from the candle and the orange wax in the tube is the set in wax from the ear! xx

I am certainly no tecno geek on this however I was informed by a a tecno boffin that the yellow powder is new ear wax (which is the stuff we want in our ear as this acts as both a barrier to inbound airbourne particles and thus protects the inner ear from damage/infection etc and that it also acts as a lubricant to the inner ears workings)and that the orange condensed wax is old compacted wax.(which we don't want as this causes us the problems we all experiance from time to time)

Aparently also there are claims that you can tell if the individual is hydrated or not ...aparently if the powdery wax is yellow in colour this i normal however if the wax is whiter in colour this could well signify dehydration???

I am not speaking from the point of view of knoledge here and wonder f anyone who is could perhaps shead some light on this??

 

[Jen Smith]

I have a client who has suffered terribly with Tinitus for 6 years following a bad cold. She says its constant in both ears and the only way she can get 'away' from the constant noise is reading. It keeps her awake at night and often doesn't fall asleep until nearly dawn, then cannot get up when her alarm goes off for work.

I have my radio in the salon fairly low so not intrusive, but she says her Tinitis is louder than the radio.

I suggested she had some Hopi Ear treatments to see if we could help her out.. and she had 3 in succession within a couple of days of each other.

One ear is completely noise free now.. the other has still some noise but is not as intrusive as before. She is overjoyed at the outcome as she has had her ears syringed by the nurse and this didn't change anything.

The first candles I did took almost 12 mins in one ear and 14 in the other. The third treatment both ears took 10 mins to burn down. The first two treatments had hardly any deposits in the candle but the third had a huge amount in one of the tubes.. I have never seen so much in any others I have done and this is the ear that has now cleared.

This is just one positive experience with the candles I have used.. there are a few more and I would happily encourage people to try this treatment. :hug:

 

[nailzoo]

:green:

The bottom line here is that there is no scientific evidence whatsoever and heaps contraversey about these things.

Thats a load of BALDERDASH Collin, there is heaps of scientific research and it sinks your product, even to the point of being banned in some countries.

Yep, I guess this thread will get ended, due to your insistence on denial of scientific research and the facts.

So it's your fault, not mine, but by all means live in your fantasy world and deny the Ear, Nose & Throat specialists (which are obviously much more qualified than you or I will ever be) about the dangers and fallacies associated with ear candling.

There is no controversies (spelt correctly), there are just the scientific facts.

The scientists have spoken and the word is out "CANDLES ARE BALDERDASH"
(that's my new word), you forced my hand on this subject, there is way more information in the negative on this subject, by very well respected doctors and scientists, whereas you are merely a peddler of snake oil remedies with very little, if not no scientific proof and respected material to back up your need to boost sales of a product that will more than likely be banned in more and more countries and eventually (as the current market and research proves) to be a sham.

Now before you go of and slag me, bully me and bah humbug me, please find me one bit of scientific proof that I am wrong. I am man enough to stand corrected by someone I respect.

Give me a scientist/doctor or Ear, Nose throat specialist that endorses this almost macabre, apparently falsely named primitive treatment.

Even the Hopi tribe (which is inferred co-operative by this falsely named product) distance themselves from this ill-named product.

I will stand corrected if there was even some kind of 50%/50% argument.

But there isn't ..... but I will stand corrected, please provide me with backed up information.

I will stand corrected if proven otherwise, my question to you is .... will you stand corrected? Or does the profit margin prevent you from doing so?

Take it as a challenge to prove me wrong (not a personal one) as there is no need to be personal, just as a professional challenge. I'd say n Ear, nose and throat specialist would be professional enough, not a therapist ( a university trained professional with suffice).

I look forward to your respected evidence to the contrary.

No need to close the thread (not thats it's up to me), but it's about time some truly respected opinions were put forth (qualified opinions), university trained opinions, opinions of doctors or specialists, not the opinions of those trained (brainwashed) by hand me downs from Woodstock.

It's actually serving a great purpose in almost embarrassing those that endorse this disproven treatment.

There's no need for argument .... merely an oppurtunity to state facts by the respected/qualified.

Don't all answer at once .......give me an hour or 2 to get back to you, i'm busy looking for a needle in a haystack.

BALDERDASH:lol:

 

[adelekeegan1]

I was neutral on ear candles until I read all the links on this subject, and did not find any evidence to support their use.

I really do think if you are going to comment on this thread you should do the same.

 

[Snugglepuss]

I don't know whether this link has been posted in previous ear candling links, but it is one that I found interesting!

the quackometer: Hopi Ear Candling - Removing the Grey Goo Between Your Ears

If people find it relaxing then fair enough and for some people that will be definitely beneficial, but I don't think that other than relaxing a client, that it can do much else!

 

[gillian w]

Ear Candle FAQ

 

[nailzoo]

Ear Candle FAQ

I don't see a "Dr" in front of the name David Harris!!!! So who is he ?

 

[cabinkel]

When I attended my training, I was never taught that it removed ear wax. I was taught that it could help with headaches, hayfever, sinus problems, tinitus. Now, whether scientificaly it does or dosent, people do get relief from it, so how can that be bad? I dont believe that it removes wax, but any positive benefit achieved with any treatment is a treatment worth having in my book:hug:

This or course is just an opinion from my experience with this treatment, (having and doing)

 

[nailzoo]

When I attended my training, I was never taught that it removed ear wax. I was taught that it could help with headaches, hayfever, sinus problems, tinitus. Now, whether scientificaly it does or dosent, people do get relief from it, so how can that be bad? I dont believe that it removes wax, but any positive benefit achieved with any treatment is a treatment worth having in my book:hug:

This or course is just an opinion from my experience with this treatment, (having and doing)

Using the word "could" exemplifies them and you of any responsibility or promise(or possible guilt), not that guilt is an issue after you have their money. It's like using the word "may".

 

[cabinkel]

Using the word "could" exemplifies them and you of any responsibility or promise(or possible guilt), not that guilt is an issue after you have their money. It's like using the word "may".

ok, but I dont promise my clients anything.:hug: Most clients that come to me for the treatment, have read/heard something about it and decide to give it a go. I always explain that I dont believe that it removes wax, but it could help with xyz. I have never had anyone dissapointed with the treatment, whether they found it relaxing, or soothing, or whatever. A lot of holistic treatments could be deemed to not be scientificaly proven, but if it feels good, blooming do it!:lol::wink2:

 

[nailzoo]

ok, but I dont promise my clients anything.:hug: Most clients that come to me for the treatment, have read/heard something about it and decide to give it a go. I always explain that I dont believe that it removes wax, but it could help with xyz. I have never had anyone dissapointed with the treatment, whether they found it relaxing, or soothing, or whatever. A lot of holistic treatments could be deemed to not be scientificaly proven, but if it feels good, blooming do it!:lol::wink2:

SEE, you used the word "could" , I am confident enough in all the services I offer in my salon to use the word "will", I thinks thats what separates the people/products that "can" and the people/products that "will try".

I have confidence in my products and my services, that they "will" do what they/I purport to do.

If you have true faith in your ability and your product, you can claim a service "will" provide what it/we can claim. And you will have a very satisfied clientelle that are walking proof, not walking doubt.

And they aint walking on those silly detox foot patches either.

 

[sj1973]

I think people on here who offer this service should have a right to have a thread about it....i know Carl you do not believe....but some people on here were asking questions about it....its the same as physics...people believe
some dont....I respect the fact that you have a opinion but so does others and we should be able to have a good chat about it.....

I have to say i have never tried ear candling but if someone said it will help you i would give it a go........the world is about if ,buts and's.....we try things out anything and everything and have our on views on it.....:hug:.

 

[hayls]

I doee with you SJ, but I think this matter has been discussed at length and the thread will always end up being closed. There are always the people who believe it works and those that dont, and it seems like we are going round in circles!

There is a specific group for Ear Candlers and I think if any discussion should be kept to there, I know its unfair, but this thread will get closed eventually, like ALL the others!

One of my clients does it and has advised I think about it for my son, he has suffered from Ear Infections and wax build up since he was a baby, all she said was it 'may' help ease the pressure built up in his ears, he is in such pain sometimes! So I may give it a go, no medicine has worked yet, so why not eh!

 

[pure]

One of my clients does it and has advised I think about it for my son, he has suffered from Ear Infections and wax build up since he was a baby, all she said was it 'may' help ease the pressure built up in his ears, he is in such pain sometimes! So I may give it a go, no medicine has worked yet, so why not eh!

Thought you might like to know that when my eldest was little, she too used to get recurring ear infections and her doctor recommended using a hairdryer on a warm setting and blowing in the ear to ease the discomfort. We tried it a few times and it did help.

Wonder if the candles would have a similar effect?

 

[collin]

:green:

Thats a load of BALDERDASH Collin, there is heaps of scientific research and it sinks your product, even to the point of being banned in some countries.

Yep, I guess this thread will get ended, due to your insistence on denial of scientific research and the facts.

So it's your fault, not mine, but by all means live in your fantasy world and deny the Ear, Nose & Throat specialists (which are obviously much more qualified than you or I will ever be) about the dangers and fallacies associated with ear candling.

There is no controversies (spelt correctly), there are just the scientific facts.

The scientists have spoken and the word is out "CANDLES ARE BALDERDASH"
(that's my new word), you forced my hand on this subject, there is way more information in the negative on this subject, by very well respected doctors and scientists, whereas you are merely a peddler of snake oil remedies with very little, if not no scientific proof and respected material to back up your need to boost sales of a product that will more than likely be banned in more and more countries and eventually (as the current market and research proves) to be a sham.

Now before you go of and slag me, bully me and bah humbug me, please find me one bit of scientific proof that I am wrong. I am man enough to stand corrected by someone I respect.

Give me a scientist/doctor or Ear, Nose throat specialist that endorses this almost macabre, apparently falsely named primitive treatment.

Even the Hopi tribe (which is inferred co-operative by this falsely named product) distance themselves from this ill-named product.

I will stand corrected if there was even some kind of 50%/50% argument.

But there isn't ..... but I will stand corrected, please provide me with backed up information.

I will stand corrected if proven otherwise, my question to you is .... will you stand corrected? Or does the profit margin prevent you from doing so?

Take it as a challenge to prove me wrong (not a personal one) as there is no need to be personal, just as a professional challenge. I'd say n Ear, nose and throat specialist would be professional enough, not a therapist ( a university trained professional with suffice).

I look forward to your respected evidence to the contrary.

No need to close the thread (not thats it's up to me), but it's about time some truly respected opinions were put forth (qualified opinions), university trained opinions, opinions of doctors or specialists, not the opinions of those trained (brainwashed) by hand me downs from Woodstock.

It's actually serving a great purpose in almost embarrassing those that endorse this disproven treatment.

There's no need for argument .... merely an oppurtunity to state facts by the respected/qualified.

Don't all answer at once .......give me an hour or 2 to get back to you, i'm busy looking for a needle in a haystack.

BALDERDASH:lol:

erm I realy don't think this thread is about my product???? but a general posting about the efectivness of these devices in general.

You like all of us have an opinion which you have made more than clear..perhaps it would be benificial to hear what others may have to say also...god or bad

Countries like individuals also have their own attitudes towards certain issues
and are fully entitled to do so but that doesn't mean they should be ridiculed.

Balderdash or not the facts of this matter are that weather or not their is scientific evidence or not there are million's of users who most definatley beleive they derive a posative benefit from this form of treatment.

Hopefully there will be other views posted which also contribute posativley to the origional posted question.

 

[mercedes69]

Scientists don't know everything.

Doctors don't know everything.

Professionals in any capacity...don't know everything....

NOBODY has all the answers....

 

[hippy-chick]

yawn! here we go again, I did tell you Bagpuss!

Question: Why does it have to be scientifically proven? Why?

We use these candles to help alleviate peoples symptoms. They work! I don't have clients coming to me and asking to see scientific proof before they have the treatment.

Carl, could I politely ask you to leave the ear candlng threads alone. I certainly don't go onto nail threads and start giving my opinion on something that I am not qualified to talk about.

I suggest anyone that would like to post any questions about ear candling on the ear candling group.

 

[hippy-chick]

Re: warm smoke (think it was pure who mentioned it).

Apparently they used to blow cigarette smoke into your ear if you had an earache.

Also, have heard of warming an onion up and placing that in the ear!

Think I know which treatment I would prefer to have! LOL.