Gelish peeling off :(

[Sparkle_Nails]

Help! I've had this problem since I started doing client's nails a few months ago - they keep peeling off! I thought it was the brand I was using so I have bought original Gelish polishes and I've just had a client text me and said that one of her nails which I did yesterday, has peeled off

I thought I capped all of the nails properly, I double checked the polish wasn't touching the cuticle or skin and made sure I put a couple coats of primer on to dry the nail plate. I used builder gel as a base coat (very thin layer) as I thought that maybe my Gellux base coat was the issue and nothing has worked

Thing is, when I put plastic tips and builder gel on a client's nails, the colour lasts for weeks - no chipping or peeling so it MUST be something wrong with my process when I'm not applying tips

help!

Michelle

 

[nailedonhudders]

Hiya Hun, what products are you using as your prep and what is your prep routine? X

 

[kirstie1980]

Your first mistake is doing a couple of coats of primer, you only need 1 very thin layer. People often believe if they apply more primer that the polish will last longer, its actually the opposite. Primer isnt for dehydrating the nsil plate, its for ensuring the polish adheres to the nail plate so think of it kinda like a glue. Also when you're prepping the nails are you giving them a wet mani or a dry mani? Its important to perform a dry mani. Are you capping every single layer? I know some nail techs only cap the topcoat. Its crucial to cap every single layer. Also before applying any product to the nail, make sure there is absolutely nothing left on the nail plate, no dust from filing, missed cuticle or any natural oils. Its also important that you dont touch the nails after you have dehydrated the nail as you have then just transferred the oils from your fingers onto your clients nail plate. All these little things can determine whether or not you will get service breakdown. Another thing to be wary of is the clients aftercare. Is she aware that water breaks down the gel? Soaking hands when washing dishes without wearing gloves will cause service breakdown. This is the number 1 reason why gels are not suitable for hairdressers. Anyway i hope this helps

 

[kirstie1980]

Oh also if your primer is one that doesnt need to be cured, ensure its completely dry before you apply your base coat. Sorry for the long post

 

[izzidoll]

I've never used primer with Gelish.
I prep cleanse and dehydrate with Scrubfresh then apply my Foundation base coat, using a tiny amount scrubbing it in then smoothing it back over the nail and capping. 2 coats of colour then top it off.
For weak nailed clients I would add a thin layer of Structure gel after Foundation base coat.

No need for builder gel surely, doesn't builder gel need to be filed smooth before applying colour? That is as in a Builder Gel that you can sculpt with and create an apex on an enhancement...or is this one, another kind of builder gel we are talking about?

 

[Sparkle_Nails]

Thanks ladies is primer the same as dehydrator? All these different terms confuse me hehe - I will just stick to one thin layer of dehydrator then.

I use a Gellux base coat and was told that it didn't need buffing but maybe that's where I'm going wrong! I started using the builder gel because I thought the base coat wasn't working but if it needs buffing, then that was obviously the issue

x

 

[kirstie1980]

No. Primer and dehydrator are two different products with different uses

 

[Sparkle_Nails]

Ah ok! Well I'm using Gellux Fast bond - what's that? Sorry for being stupid x

 

[Sparkle_Nails]

So are there dehydrators, primers and base coats? X

 

[kirstie1980]

Yes but dont alter the system you're working with. Use it the way it tells you to. If you're using primer and other chemicals that it doesnt suggest then you have altered the system and will get service breakdown.

 

[izzidoll]

As Kirstie 1980 has said you need to use the full system, mixing and matching will cause service breakdown and will invalidate your insurance should there be a problem.

What course are you doing for nails, as I am staggered that the products and their uses haven't been fully explained to you. This is basic stuff and potentially dangerous.
There are still acid based primers out there that can cause chemical burns...apply that like a dehydrator or base coat and watch your client scream!

 

[Sparkle_Nails]

Yep I have realised that my training was awful and I'm confused a lot of the time!

 

[izzidoll]

I think if you want to use Gelish then you should book in for their training, it will be worth it and much better for your business.

 

[cheekychick]

Help! I've had this problem since I started doing client's nails a few months ago - they keep peeling off! I thought it was the brand I was using so I have bought original Gelish polishes and I've just had a client text me and said that one of her nails which I did yesterday, has peeled off

I thought I capped all of the nails properly, I double checked the polish wasn't touching the cuticle or skin and made sure I put a couple coats of primer on to dry the nail plate. I used builder gel as a base coat (very thin layer) as I thought that maybe my Gellux base coat was the issue and nothing has worked

Thing is, when I put plastic tips and builder gel on a client's nails, the colour lasts for weeks - no chipping or peeling so it MUST be something wrong with my process when I'm not applying tips

help!

Michelle

Builder gel isn't flexible like gel polish so it isn't meant to be used as a base for gelish.

You don't need to use primer it's not made to be used with gel polish. And it does not dry the nail plate as you said. Ph bond is the dehydrator designed to be used with gelish.

I really think you need to invest in further training to get the best from your products and to benefit your clients. x