Hair colour help

[Ayesha]

Hi there. I’m just needing some advice. My lady previously has foils with bleach and 20 vol then toned with wella colour touch 9/81 ( pic 1) as she likes her hsir very ashy. She now would like to have a ballayage (pic 2) my question is because she wants the brown more natural and not warm at all wgst colour would you suggest I use! If I use a ash brown will go green if I use a golden or red brown will be too warm. I know I could pre pig but might be hard to pre pig the root then to go over the exact same sections with the dark color
Thanks

 

[Ayesha]

Anyone????

 

[Jake nattrass hair]

Creating an super ashy base with any colour without it looking flat/khaki is pretty difficult especially when covering blonde. You can tell the bottom photo has some warmth. Here is a root stretch I did similar using wella colour touch in 5/0 and 6/37.

 

[Ayesha]

Creating an super ashy base with any colour without it looking flat/khaki is pretty difficult especially when covering blonde. You can tell the bottom photo has some warmth. Here is a root stretch I did similar using wella colour touch in 5/0 and 6/37.

Perfect thsvks so much. Do you apply your colour touch on wet or dry hsir x

 

[Ayesha]

Perfect thsvks so much. Do you apply your colour touch on wet or dry hsir x

Also ratio?? Half 5/0 half 6/37??

 

[EssexFreelance]

Defo Illumina - 6/16 maybe some 5 - no khaki at all and I use them on a daily basis. I never use warmth on a root stretch

 

[EssexFreelance]

The /97 would be perfect for this pic too. 5/96 in 7/97 and 9/97

 

[Ayesha]

Defo Illumina - 6/16 maybe some 5 - no khaki at all and I use them on a daily basis. I never use warmth on a root stretch

I’ve never tried illumina. Im a bit of a scaredy-pants with colours lately. I panic with any colour thst has ash in it going on blonde will go khaki

 

[ronray]

I’ve never tried illumina. Im a bit of a scaredy-pants with colours lately. I panic with any colour thst has ash in it going on blonde will go khaki

Illumina is lovely, and I'm sure I was told by education team that you don't need to pre pig
If not 7/97 CT is lovely 1.9%

 

[EssexFreelance]

I’ve never tried illumina. Im a bit of a scaredy-pants with colours lately. I panic with any colour thst has ash in it going on blonde will go khaki

It doesn’t honestly try it once and you will be addicted.

 

[Ayesha]

It doesn’t honestly try it once and you will be addicted.

Ok I’m going to put my faith in you guys and try illumina 6/16 I’ll add some 5/0 to it to give it some depth too!!!! I feel I just need help with colours at the moment!!!
My lady who I scalp bleach her mids and ends are very very blonde!!! Prob a very clean 10 if not lighter. no warmth at all. Her roots on the other hand lift to a very golden warm 9!!! My question is I know my basics to strip out yellow/orange you need to use a blue violet so I used wella 10/8 with pastel msybe I should of used a 10/86. I just worry if I go down to a 9 it will darken it. I’m just over thinking everything right now. But thankyou so much Essex freelance for your help and advice. It really is greatly appreciated

 

[EssexFreelance]

If your only lifting to a 9 then you tone with a 9. The ends might be lighter due to over lap?

With scalp bleaches I apply LOADS of product, mix it accurately, reapply twice and develop 50mins

 

[Katie Elizabeth hair]

Hi this might not help as I don’t use Wella, so I know shades ect can vary but when I do root drag on blonde shades that don’t want warmth I use xp1000 shade 6.13 mixed with 5.0 or 4.0 depending on how dark they want it, I find it blends ashy but without the karki! X

 

[Ayesha]

If your only lifting to a 9 then you tone with a 9. The ends might be lighter due to over lap?

With scalp bleaches I apply LOADS of product, mix it accurately, reapply twice and develop 50mins

I think this is my trouble I’m not leaving it on long enough. I had a bad experience in a salon about 10 years ago. We had a goldwell colour technician come in to give up some advice on full head bleach. She told us to pack the bleach right in on the root to give it a better lift!!! Which it did but when I rinsed it off my lady’s hair was falling out in clumps!!!! The technician didn’t know what to say or do. Was horrible

 

[EssexFreelance]

I think this is my trouble I’m not leaving it on long enough. I had a bad experience in a salon about 10 years ago. We had a goldwell colour technician come in to give up some advice on full head bleach. She told us to pack the bleach right in on the root to give it a better lift!!! Which it did but when I rinsed it off my lady’s hair was falling out in clumps!!!! The technician didn’t know what to say or do. Was horrible

O no! That’s is true tho tho pack the bleach on to give lift but that isn’t the reason the hair will fall out itll he because of over lap or existing damage

 

[Ayesha]

O no! That’s is true tho tho pack the bleach on to give lift but that isn’t the reason the hair will fall out itll he because of over lap or existing damage

I just want to feel confident in using it again. I just get so anxious with it