Help, Scubfresh has paraben in it which I read is toxic

[Jazzy_Jaz]

To be honest most cosmetics have parabens in. I wouldn't worry unduly about it. Dermalogica is recommended by the Dermal Institute but all their products are chocablock full of parabens, so they can't be that bad.

What i would worry about is companies who advertise themselves as being paraben-free - what on earth are they using instead? A new generation of preservatives that probably carry even worse toxicology problems!

 

[ValencianNails]

Here in Oz I've hardly heard of scrubfresh...?

ScrubFresh™ - CND

hth's

 

[JesseDavidNailDesign]

There is a difference between using a product once every two or three weeks and using a product every single day.

I choose face and body care products without parabens, because I'm using these products several times a day and everyday. I use these products in my services because I encourage my clients to do the same.

But to prep the nails a few times a month, I wouldn't worry about parabens. Your enhancements and polish need to stay! You have a job to do.

If you want to minimize you and your clients exposure to parabens, focus on the lotions, soap (don't forget SLS), and body oils you use everyday!!

 

[JesseDavidNailDesign]

What i would worry about is companies who advertise themselves as being paraben-free - what on earth are they using instead? A new generation of preservatives that probably carry even worse toxicology problems!

Products that don't make use of parabens manufacture their products in small batches and give them a shelf life of one or two years.
I use Naturopathica for facials and some body treatments, they list jasmine alcohol as the preservative. There not just making new chemical preservatives!

 

[Vetty]

Nail techs are going to face hazards in the work place, our stock is full of various chemicals as well as good stuff. You can try to minimize the effects, especially if you're having health concerns by using vodka mixed with water for cleaning & vinegar for nail infections.

How professional, not! Seriously, why do you think companies spend millions of £'s and $'s on research and development of sanitising products for nails if vodka and water are as effective? This is a professional and educational site and therefore home-made remedies are not for recommendation IMO.

Also, you are mis-understanding the word chemical - it does not mean a substance in harmful. In fact, everything in the world is a chemical apart from light and electricity, one of the most dangerous chemicals around is water. If you use a chemical for its intended purpose and in the recommended quantities you will come to no harm.

hth's

 

[Ruth Mills]

So I guess i'll have to stop drinking my Scrubfresh and tonic and go back to Vodka!!!!!

Ha ha, that's the spirit (sorry, couldn't resist) :green:

 

[1999judy]

So I guess i'll have to stop drinking my Scrubfresh and tonic and go back to Vodka!!!!!

Good idea....I'll join you...that Scrubfresh just didn't have the same kick:lol:
Seriously as has already been said.....anything can be dangerous
if it's not used correctly.
It's such a shame you have had health problems due to not being taught the correct procedures etc so I'm really glad you've found the site x
Have you had chance to have a read of these articles?
http://www.salongeek.com/health-safety-unatural/5131-alice-allergen.html
http://www.salongeek.com/health-safety-unatural/3622-grampy-geek-vs-fear-fairies.html
http://www.salongeek.com/health-saf...delines-avoid-overexposure-nail-products.html
http://www.salongeek.com/health-safety-unatural/3623-frosty-dust-man.html
http://www.salongeek.com/health-safety-unatural/3010-technotes.html

 

[Olivia Dawn]

Ok So I just started using Brisa and is Scrub Fresh just for prepping the nail or is it to wipe between filing and that stuff too? like a gel cleaner? and is using just isypropyl (spelling) alcohol to wipe inbetween and to clean brush bad? that was one way we did it in school when we didn't have finishing wipe or something? .. confused about all that

 

[Jolicatellas]

There is a difference between using a product once every two or three weeks and using a product every single day.

I choose face and body care products without parabens, because I'm using these products several times a day and everyday. I use these products in my services because I encourage my clients to do the same.

But to prep the nails a few times a month, I wouldn't worry about parabens. Your enhancements and polish need to stay! You have a job to do.

If you want to minimize you and your clients exposure to parabens, focus on the lotions, soap (don't forget SLS), and body oils you use everyday!!

I agree 100%. Using antibac (sorry don't get scrubfresh in Oz), acetone, polish removers and (formaldehyde free) varnish is all part of the job & we have a job to do. Client's exposure to these things is minimal anyway - once every couple of weeks.

I do use SLES, propylene glycol & paraben free beauty products in my services though - as jessebruner says: focus on the lotions

P.S. the vodka/alcohol is used for cleaning up the work area not on clients (& maybe a sip for me at the end of day . Though I was honestly taught in training to soak infected nails in vinegar... no jokes!

 

[ValencianNails]

Ok So I just started using Brisa and is Scrub Fresh just for prepping the nail or is it to wipe between filing and that stuff too? like a gel cleaner? and is using just isypropyl (spelling) alcohol to wipe inbetween and to clean brush bad? that was one way we did it in school when we didn't have finishing wipe or something? .. confused about all that

You use Scrubfresh for not only prepping the nail (leaving behind those pathogen fighters to combat any bacteria :wink2 but also for removing the inhibition layer of gel when you're ready to buff and/or finish.

I have a lint free pad (sometimes dampened with SF) to wipe my brush when needs be, although to be honest I don't wipe my gel brush that often.

 

[Jeni Giles]

You use Scrubfresh for not only prepping the nail (leaving behind those pathogen fighters to combat any bacteria :wink2 but also for removing the inhibition layer of gel when you're ready to buff and/or finish.

I have a lint free pad (sometimes dampened with SF) to wipe my brush when needs be, although to be honest I don't wipe my gel brush that often.

I personally can't stand sticky...I may be OCD about cleaning my brush...

Scrubfresh jello shots available only on Saturday evening right after the vodka...

 

[1999judy]

Do we actually have a serious post about Scrubfresh?
OK...shoot me..
I DON'T USE CND......
But hell let's have the moment guys!!!!
OK..in serious English....it has stuff you COULD get use in an allergy to....and SO COULD ANYTHING.....you don't KNOW the full details of......get a reaction!!!!!!!!!
I really give up!

 

[VHunter]

Do we actually have a serious post about Scrubfresh?
OK...shoot me..
I DON'T USE CND......
But hell let's have the moment guys!!!!
OK..in serious English....it has stuff you COULD get use in an allergy to....and SO COULD ANYTHING.....you don't KNOW the full details of......get a reaction!!!!!!!!!
I really give up!

Judy, I really tried,,, and ya know I love ya hun...:hug:
But that paragraph? I am sooooooooooooo lost... I did't understand what you were saying at all.
Were you loaded on scrubfresh (or is it vodka?) at the time that you wrote it?


:lol::hug:

 

[Olivia Dawn]

You use Scrubfresh for not only prepping the nail (leaving behind those pathogen fighters to combat any bacteria :wink2 but also for removing the inhibition layer of gel when you're ready to buff and/or finish.

I have a lint free pad (sometimes dampened with SF) to wipe my brush when needs be, although to be honest I don't wipe my gel brush that often.

Thank you! that helps

 

[grafxgal]

(sorry don't get scrubfresh in Oz),

Ah sorry but yes you do. It's a standard stock supply for those that use CND.

P.S. the vodka/alcohol is used for cleaning up the work area not on clients (& maybe a sip for me at the end of day . Though I was honestly taught in training to soak infected nails in vinegar... no jokes!

Sorry but if this is the quality of training that you received I would look at retraining, no reputable company that I know of would teach you to soak infected nails in vinegar.

 

[nailzoo]

Sorry but if this is the quality of training that you received I would look at retraining, no reputable company that I know of would teach you to soak infected nails in vinegar.

Product based training would never teach you cheaper methods (they want you to buy their products).

Vinegar does kill Bacteria, Viruses and Mould (and it's non-toxic), so it is actually quite effective.

There is always more than way way to skin a cat (or even clean a nail for that matter).
Just because you may not have been shown something or taught to use it, doesn't make it wrong.

 

[VHunter]

Sorry but if this is the quality of training that you received I would look at retraining, no reputable company that I know of would teach you to soak infected nails in vinegar.

ditto what zoo said...

I even know of a VERY reputable company that urges their techs to READ...... as in read the ingredients of their products.
And when stuck in a pinch, to use a mix of 1/2 and 1/2 of alcohol & acetone to replace Nail cleanser/dehydrator.......

Food for thought....

 

[The Geek]

Just because a label says 'alcohol' or even 'acetone' doesn't mean that you can simply whip up a batch of a similarly functioning product by mixing the 2 together. Most chemicals come in varying degrees of grades. The higher the grade, the more refined and processed (and expensive) it is. Run of the mill acetone bought off the shelf will contain far more impurities than that used in the manufacturing of a professional product.

Is it really worth saving a couple coppers per application?

On a side note, vinegar isn't suitable for any nail application. Though it is an interestingly good disinfectant, you don't ever need to disinfect the nail. Nor would you ever see mould on a nail that would need disinfecting.

 

[VHunter]

Just because a label says 'alcohol' or even 'acetone' doesn't mean that you can simply whip up a batch of a similarly functioning product by mixing the 2 together. Most chemicals come in varying degrees of grades. The higher the grade, the more refined and processed (and expensive) it is. Run of the mill acetone bought off the shelf will contain far more impurities than that used in the manufacturing of a professional product.

Is it really worth saving a couple coppers per application?

On a side note, vinegar isn't suitable for any nail application. Though it is an interestingly good disinfectant, you don't ever need to disinfect the nail. Nor would you ever see mould on a nail that would need disinfecting.

I agree with much of what you said... but please note, I did say "stuck in a pinch"... in other words... stick with the good stuff unless you've no other choice for the moment.:wink2:

 

[nailzoo]

My comment on vinegar was as a home remedy (a proven home remedy)
you only need to google vinegar as an antibacterial, I would never use it as a nail prep.

Oddly enough vinegar has no apparent shelf life.

I understand the use of parabens, but also think the alcohol content in scrubfresh would kill almost anything anyways.

The beauty of Vinegar as an alternative antibacterial is the fact that almost no living organism can maintain life below a pH of 3, which is very acidic (which is vinegar).

Google "Vinegar Anti Bacterial"