Help with UV and LED combo

[xxsarajaynexx]

Hey.

So I recently set up form at home doing beauty..
I decided to use gelaration top and base as I love them and think they last. I have a led lamp but I also use cnd shellac colours .. So I cure my base gelaration with led then say a client picks Widfire cnd and I cure the two colours with uv before gelaration top coat with led.. I love the led and think the gelaration cures better with it so using uv for all is not an option .. Time wise also ..

Thanks guys 💋💋

 

[pure]

Do you have any training in nails? Your profile doesn't say, would be helpful if you could complete that please

With any nail products you can't mix systems, so you can't use one brand of base with a different colour coat. You won't be able to guarantee a full cure nor whether the product would last. It's something I would strongly advise you not to do. If the products aren't cured 100% (and you can't tell by eye) then you are at risk of developing allergy which usually means you then can't use most nail products.

 

[cheekychick]

I agree with what pure said but also
what a faff!
I dont think it would look good from a clients point of view if you are swapping lamps here there and everywhere.
Also if you have insurance you wont be covered if one of your clients has an allergic reaction if you are mixing brands, as it is not manufacturer's instructions

 

[libbylou]

If you have gone to the trouble of investing in shellac , then why not use the base and top coat, it just does not make any sense. Shellac is a fab product when used correctly. It is also unfair to mislead clients into thinking they are having shellac applied, when they are not.

 

[xxsarajaynexx]

So first off I clearly state to my clients that shellac have a small range off colours and that I do have a shellac base and top but from working the last 4 years with nails I fell in love with the gelaration top and base because they last longer ESP with hairdressers with water .. I've mixed gellux/gellish and many more with Jessica's top and base . The only one I haven't is with the shellac .. I've tested it off on my self so I'll see how it goes ..

 

[Lilypie]

So first off I clearly state to my clients that shellac have a small range off colours and that I do have a shellac base and top but from working the last 4 years with nails I fell in love with the gelaration top and base because they last longer ESP with hairdressers with water .. I've mixed gellux/gellish and many more with Jessica's top and base . The only one I haven't is with the shellac .. I've tested it off on my self so I'll see how it goes ..

The thing is thought is that systems are not meant to be mixed whether they appear to work or not. You may not be insured when mixing systems so it's not really about what you've told the client or how long it lasts. It's more the fact it's not designed to be done and how you're going to ensure your clients are insured when going against the manufacturers advice?

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[AcidPerm]

Definitely not worth risking mixing up products from different ranges, in my opinion.

If one of your clients develops an allergy, how will you prove it's not you meddling that has caused the allergy?

This is what it can look like... Google 'allergy to nail gel' to see other pics if you're still undecided.

 

[xxsarajaynexx]

Ok so ye are saying that a client can develop a allergy from a mix ? Even thou they have used Shellac and Jessica in separate occasions . Is it the combo of the two that can cause an allergy ??
Thanks 💋

 

[pure]

Ok so ye are saying that a client can develop a allergy from a mix ? Even thou they have used Shellac and Jessica in separate occasions . Is it the combo of the two that can cause an allergy ??
Thanks 💋

Each range has been designed and created with their own formulations, and each brand is different. You really should never, ever mix brands in this way. I really can't stress enough how important this is!

 

[AcidPerm]

It's not about whether mixing system works or not. You can experiment on yourself, if you want to.

Clients can still develop allergies when you use all the gel products correctly. The symptoms are usually very painful with itching, swelling, blistering etc.

What I'm trying to get across is, what happens if you have a client who develops an allergy and you have been happily mixing systems despite having training that strongly advises against doing so?

Hopefully, you've purchased public liability insurance to cover you if someone sues you?

If your allergic client decides to sue you, your insurance company will say you're not covered because you didn't follow manufacturers guidelines or your training, thus leaving you in the lurch.

Your client will know that you mixed different brands and this information will come out at some point.

So, I'm not saying that what you are doing isn't working or that the products are not curing. I've no idea whether it does or doesn't cure.

But as a professional charging for your services, you are taking a risk with every client you take on, if problems develop. You will be left high & dry!

Can you afford to be sued?

 

[xxsarajaynexx]

Ok so I guess I'll be getting rid of the CnD... In the salon I previous worked in for years always mixed gellish gel for overlay , shellac colour and Jessica top coat on the nail .. I guess I thought it was ok becoz the salon did it .. Thanks guys

 

[SambucaBeau]

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So I think this is an on going reaction to gel... I use different makes, red carpet, Gellux, Gelish etc purely by testing the waters to decide which make I would like to use on my clients. After non stop wear, and taking it off as and when needed, I thought my fingers were just reacting to the products used to soak off etc... But now I'm having second thoughts. I have nail beds pretty much hanging off my finger, most fingers are itchy (not all of them though). Would you remove, and let your hands heal, and then try it again? I can't stand normal paint where I'm so used to gels, and I don't get along with acrylics! But I want my nails to look nice dammit! Typical lol x

 

[SambucaBeau]

Thinking back, I think I mixed some brands when I did an xmas design the beginning of December, and that's when it started! Obv I haven't let it heal.

 

[AcidPerm]

Generally, once you develop a reaction to a specific ingredient, you have it for life!

The symptoms usually get worse following each subsequent exposure.

 

[SambucaBeau]

Well, that's my gel nail days over!! Fun whilst it lasted! 😩. Thanks though x