Lycon vs Perron Rigot

[diane86]

Hi all as the subject suggests I'm trying to decide which waxing brand to go with. I qualified in beauty therapy 10 years ago but it's never been my favourite treatment to do due to mixed training techniques (lecturer went on maternity leave early.)

So I've cut my choices down which are Lycon wax-I saw this at beauty UK in May 2013 and was amazed how effective this was on such short hair and liked the sound of it being less painful. I had previously used hot wax at college and had a rather interesting experience!

The other Perron Rigot. I've looked into doing a refresher course with Kim Lawless and I know that this is the wax she uses.

So my question is, have you used these, have you tried both? What were your pros/cons and is there any other advice and/or information you can give me?

I'm heading to Olympia this weekend (hairy) to get waxed by Lycon first hand but I don't think Perron Rigot are there.

Apologies for the loooooong topic.

Many thanks in advance,
Diane

 

[squidgernetball]

I think you have to train with lycon to use lycon so I think that deters a lot of people although I understand it is excellent.

I trained with Kim last year and have used PR ever since. Excellent was, easy to order and free p and p.

Vic x

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[diane86]

Thanks Vic,

Yes if I'm honest that is what's putting me off a bit. As much as it's not my favourite treatment to do I have been doing it for 10yrs and just feel like I need more of a refresher-like Kim's rather than a 2 day course. I hear a lot about Perron Rigot but not much about Lycon. However I've seen Lycon in action but not Perron. The never ending trials and tribulations of product and training decisions eh?!

 

[fozzyo]

Lycon have an excellent PR / marketing team and they have one thing that I don't think any other wax brand really has. And that is client awareness - out of all the waxes Lycon is probably the most well known among clients. That is not saying it is super well known like Dermalogica is for skin, but its a name many may recognise.

My own understanding is that Lycon is used quite thickly on the skin - where as PR and many others are used much thinner. Both have their advocates, but I know many don't like the Lycon training requirement.

 

[diane86]

Thanks Fozzyo,

I have tended to find that, not a huge amount of information on Perron Rigot about apart from on here. On the other hand I can't find much about Lycon on salon geek.

Ideally I would like to try both on myself so I know how the product feels before committing to anything but I don't think Perron Rigot is available at Olympia this weekend.

 

[Louloubell32]

Hi I think Jack Dunn on here does the discovery workshops, I think ones being held on October 20th, where you will learn more about PR and try there products out.

It cost £20 but you get a goodie bag and can redeem the cost against your purchases.

I'm sure Jack will give more info. I will hopefully be going.

Lou

 

[Male Waxing]

Thanks Fozzyo,

I have tended to find that, not a huge amount of information on Perron Rigot about apart from on here. On the other hand I can't find much about Lycon on salon geek.

Ideally I would like to try both on myself so I know how the product feels before committing to anything but I don't think Perron Rigot is available at Olympia this weekend.

I would be cautious about "committing" to any brand ever! I think blind faith to a single brand benefits only the brands bank balance and I would always keep my options open.

I hear that Lycon will sell to anyone at the trade shows regardless of whether they have done training or not and PR will send you free samples of their hot waxes. Best to try for yourself as everyone's opinions about wax are different.

 

[Laurasnowwhite]

I use Lycon & I really love it.

I choose to use the lycojet wax, which is a gel texture, as opposed to a cream wax. This is applied thinner than the Lycon traditional hot waxes.

I chose to use this wax for a couple of reasons: one, because I prefer the texture of the wax to work with over the cream waxes, & two, because it can be applied thinner I find it more cost effective.

 

[fozzyo]

As well as Olympia Beauty this weekend there is Pro Beauty North (Manchster) and the Hair Removal Expo (Birmingham) coming up in the next month or two. All good places to try your hand at lots of wax brands and to talk to the companies directly.

 

[Kim Lawless]

My honest opinion is that clients neither know nor care which wax you use, but they will remember that the wax that you used hurt less than the salon down the road so it pays to use a good wax...........gentler on your client and easier to work with.

Years ago Lycon was known by clients but I wouldn't say that was the case now. You know that I adore Perron Rigot but I've not tried Lycon so I can't comment on the wax itself, so give them both a try.

You don't need to have done any special training with Perron to place and order and just use it but as has been said, I'm told that you do with Lycon.

I'm going to be making a video in association with Perron Rigot showing you how to use each and every one of their products and I'm guessing that will be available to watch for free on YouTube and their website.

 

[squidgernetball]

My honest opinion is that clients neither know nor care which wax you use, but they will remember that the wax that you used hurt less than the salon down the road so it pays to use a good wax...........gentler on your client and easier to work with.

Years ago Lycon was known by clients but I wouldn't say that was the case now. You know that I love Perron Rigot and I've not tried Lycon, so give them both a try.

You don't need to have done any special training with Perron to place and order and just use it but as has been said, you do with Lycon.

I'm going to be making a video in association with Perron Rigot showing you how to use each and every one of their products and I'm guessing that will be available to watch for free on YouTube and their website.

That sounds great Kim. Let me know when it's available!

Vic x

 

[mimid]

That sounds great Kim. Let me know when it's available!

Vic x

Me too!!!

 

[liseelou]

Just googled hair removal expo Birmingham an its £90 entry is this right?
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[fozzyo]

Full ticket price is £90, £80 before end of September.

 

[Pinkbunny28]

Personally I have tried both and hands down perron rigot wins. It's a much easier wax to work with. The non strip waxes dont go brittle as with lycon meaning you dont have to worry about accidently leaving it on too long or whatever. The strip waxes are equally as nice and I find them ridiculously more cost effective than any other wax I've ever used.

Best part is that the PR waxes take all the hairs out at once (mostly, there may be an odd straggler) and clients do understand that other waxes do leave hair and have to be gone over a few times x

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[noreenoconnor]

Both brands will have there pros and cons , I too have used both so will share my experiences

With Lycon there is a good brand awareness, some clients would ask if we use it. It used to be more exclusive before whereas a lot of salons in my area are now using it and I think it's devaluing the brand a bit. People didn't mind paying more for Lycon before because it was seen as a luxury brand but with salons undercutting each other so much at the moment it seems to be loosing that pro point.

You have to train to use it which is both costly and annoying. I did the product training course and advanced waxing course. I found the product training pretty straight forward and learnt one or two tricks but nothing major, it is not a hard wax to use . I found the advanced waxing course lacking and was not able to do brazillian with that much confidence afterwards and chose to retain with kim lawless a year later.

Lycon is a two phase waxing system, you would apply the rose wax first which would grab the thicker hairs and the lavender wax second to grab the finer hairs. This does take longer than just using one wax and obviously makes the treatment more expensive

The wax comes in large blocks that you must smash up yourself and store in a box for later use, I found this extremely annoying

I found the rose wax was pretty ordinary and prone to being brittle if left on a little to long, however I found the lavender wax very flexible.

As for perron rigot , it is undoubtably much easier to use than Lycon , dare I say foolproof it goes on thinner so is more economical to use and comes in beads that you can just pour into the wax pot

I switched over from Lycon to perron rigot after doing Kim's training and haven't looked back since . I personally much prefer it .

There are two main cons with perron rigot though . I can't seem to get a good result with brow and lip waxing from any of their waxes I've tried so far (euro blonde and visage) with the lavender wax from Lycon it literally takes out every single fine blonde hair but I can't get that same result with PR. Because of this I have a mini heater with some of the Lycon lavender wax and still use this for brows and lip waxing. I prefer PR for chin waxing though and get get results on this part of the face? Weird but true

The other thing that slightly annoys me about PR is I feel that the packaging on the retail items can be old fashioned looking and a kin to the Cien brand packaging of cosmetics for Lidl !! The summer water comes in a beautiful bottle but I think the ingrown serums and hair minimising serums are packaged quite cheaply . They are lovely products though I just feel like the packaging lets them down.

Hope that helps!!