Still worth waiting?

[VIVA.GLAM]

Our apprentice at work has naturally dull copper hair. I say our apprentice, she works for a woman who rents a chair in our salon. She has SUCH a build up of colour on her hair it's unreal. She's had as dark as 3 underneath, 4's 5's and reds all over. She's even used box colours thinking it would last longer. eek:I know...nothing to do with me lol) Sooo from matching her hair up to the colour chart... she matches up to a heck of a lot. Around a level of 4/5. She's been using Head and Shoulders to try and fade it and strip as much as she can. Now, I'm going nowhere near it. I'm not going to lie but it's a no go for me. She wants to go a light copper all over. Kinda like Nicola from Girls Aloud. I can tell she is getting impatient and I worry she's going to have at it herself. I can't honestly think what to suggest to her except keep trying to grow it out and fade it.
Any suggestions??

I can't provide a picture for you but it's got elements of (L'Oreal) 5.52, 5.6 and some places it's a darker red and others it's a very dull red. It's in good condition considering. She had a flash under her fringe bleached and coloured over with a bright red. Which faded. She had even tried food colouring.

Hope I've painted a good enough picture! :|

 

[-sophisticutz-]

Maybe try a strand test in a bleach bath to see if it will shift the colour. you would only need to get it to an orangey 7 to get that colour. Schwartzkopf do a gorgeous 7/778 that could then go over the top.

 

[sarah_clancy]

I would suggest waiting and let it fade..
Before I went blonde I always use to take my dark colour through to the ends, but I think i left it almost a year before changing (just doing regrowth) and when I went lighter it was perfect
Especially with her being so dark too!
The waiting game is annoying, but so worth it!
xox

 

[VIVA.GLAM]

Maybe try a strand test in a bleach bath to see if it will shift the colour. you would only need to get it to an orangey 7 to get that colour. Schwartzkopf do a gorgeous 7/778 that could then go over the top.

I wondered if that would be worth trying. Like you say it only needs lifting to an orange shade. So whatever copper colour would go on the top you'd suggest doing as a semi?

 

[-sophisticutz-]

I would porosity balance it, then mid-lengths and ends a squidge of base and target colour with 3%. Virgin roots, a little more base than previous mix, target shade and 3% to stop root glow.

 

[VIVA.GLAM]

As I suspected she's got really impatient. I matched up her current colour on the chart and it's between a 5/6. Still a heck of a lot of red. So I did a couple of strand tests today and took a piece from underneath, where it's darkest, and from the top where it's lightest. From looking at it more thoroughly there isn't a huge difference in the depth but it's basically lighter in places than others. I did bleach and 6% for between 15-20 minutes just to lift it one or two shades. Rinsed and put Majirel 7.44 and 3% (perhaps 1.9% would be better?). It's come out a lovely copper and pretty much what she wants. It's still in good condition and I have suggested if she wants it doing it will be a GRADUAL proccess and start with highlights of it. I held the strand pieces against her hair and there's a noticable difference and the colour looks lovely even against what she has on it now. I'm still a bit dubious about doing it and in fact HOW. As I said, she works for the woman who rents a chair in our salon and she still swears by her cap. The apprentice has got fairly short choppy layers and the smoothest of hair (even with all the colouring and straightening!). I've got a good feeling she's going to cap it but perhaps that's going to be the best method if she's only going to have highlights of it...or by all means let me know of an easier way??