Stop the Stink !!!!!

[Peter Pan]

Oh Carl , for god sake, why do have to get on your bloody high horse every time someone doesnt agree with you..................its starting to wear thin.

when I watched that video, I thought, wait up, I dont get smoke coming off my monomer, so why the hell is he (bloke in vid).

 

[Envy]

I can't wait to read your book, only problem is finding the money go get a copy over here to New Zealand, but it is defiantely on my 'to do' list

You can purchase this directly from CND NZ 0800 624 569
they always have them as it is such an amazing resource!!!!!

 

[Doug Schoon]

Hi,
That's not much of a test, in my opinion. What's to say that after a week or two that filter has absorbed all the monomer it can and now lets the vapors pass right through? That's what happens with devices like this and why these devices usually end up in the closet. I would ask for my money back and invest in a proper ventilation system.

I am very familiar with air filtration technology and I have seen devices like this come and go over the 25+ years I been a scientist in this industry. The technology to do what this little device claims does not exist. If it did, I would support this whole heartedly! That should be obvious.

Why do you think I am warning you against them? I have no interest in anything other than the truth. I would love it if there was a breakthrough in technology that cleaned the air like this device supposedly does. It would be fantastic, but... save your money. These devices are not a replacement for proper ventilation any more than children's roller-skates are a replacement for an jet aircraft.

Doug Schoon
Chief Scientific Advisor
Creative Nail Design, Inc.

I went to a nail supplier yesterday and had a look at one of these little beauties, she paced monomer on one side and I stuck my nose in the other ...... no stench at all. I retails for $AUS205.

http://www.luraco.com/Images/VIDEO1.wmv (done with a product you may be famliar with).

the webisite is
LURACO technologies

 

[Peter Pan]

GO DOUG - thanks for that - i have always said to clients etc, if doug dont write or say it - then it aint true


thank you again

 

[Enhanced-Barbie]

You can purchase this directly from CND NZ 0800 624 569
they always have them as it is such an amazing resource!!!!!

Ooo thanks for that info Envy, do you think they would still sell it to me even though I don't have CND certs? Oh and would you know how much it costs (I would have to save up unfortunately), oh and do you know if they also have Gigis book, nail class, thats also on my 'want' list.

Sorry for all the questions :hug:

 

[geeg]

Ooo thanks for that info Envy, do you think they would still sell it to me even though I don't have CND certs? Oh and would you know how much it costs (I would have to save up unfortunately), oh and do you know if they also have Gigis book, nail class, thats also on my 'want' list.

Sorry for all the questions :hug:

Of course they will sell it to you :green:. You don't need to be CND trained to buy Doug's book which is about product chemistry and not about CND at all ... We at CND have the unique privilege of having Doug as our associate and colleague hug but the book is not about THE brand or any individual brand.

As for 'nailclass' ... it is available to purchase from www.mundoproducts.co.uk at a very reasonable price and postage from the UK whenever you want. It is so easy and arrives very quickly too. x

 

[Enhanced-Barbie]

Of course they will sell it to you :green:. You don't need to be CND trained to buy doug's book which is about product chemistry and not about CND at all ... We at CND have the unique privelege of having Doug as our associate and collegue hug but the book is not about THE brand or any brand.

As for 'nailclass' ... it is available to purchase from www.mundoproducts.co.uk at a very reasonable price and postage from the UK whenever you want. It is so easy and arrives very quickly too. x

Thanks for that info Gigi To get your book in NZ would cost me around $50nzd, which is quite a bit for someone on a low income, but that just means I have to get my A into G and start doing nails so I can afford to get it! Oh and I would have to get a credit card, I don't think they would give me one with my current cirrcumstances, but it's definately something I will aim to get when I can

 

[geeg]

I don't see why you feel any compunction to defend yourself at all! Your original post, where you mention an open window, does not say that you only open it after working .. it points out quite clearly that you work with an open window which anyone reading it would take to mean you ... work with an open window! It is not the readers's fault if they take what you say as read.

How many get the chance to have a personal communication with someone like Doug Schoon who has only your best interests at heart and has taken a great deal of his valuable time to reply to you? He wasn't attacking you or what you have done ... only informing you along the lines of what you yourself have written. Not everyone of the points he's made needs to be defended.
A simple thank you would have sufficed.

 

[NoLimitNails]

I have deleted the post, as I found it to hard to explain myself without comming across rude. (thank you for pointing that out)

I do appriciate his opinion, and think higly of him (believe you me I was exited when I met him a few years ago and had the chance to hear a lecture of his). Thats why I wanted to point out those things as I do know these things and do know how to work safe. I did'nt wanna look like I defend unsafe workenvironments (if it makes sense)
(And i did mention in a post that I did work wit the window open, but just below I explain that I't wasn't what I ment, just a case of typing then eit something and then forgetting to read the whole thing)

Sometimes it's very hard to explain yourself in a language thats not your own in terms of the not attacking part. I have to think about spelling and grammar and trying to keep it short, so maybe it comes out the wrong way?
I want to make it very clear that I was not trying to be rude here, or attack or be hostile in any way. And I'm very sorry if it came across that way.

 

[daniella]

Wath do you think of the purex tabel ?is that working ?????????????????????????????????????????greeting daniella

 

[geeg]

I have deleted the post, as I found it to hard to explain myself without comming across rude. (thank you for pointing that out)

I do appriciate his opinion, and think higly of him (believe you me I was exited when I met him a few years ago and had the chance to hear a lecture of his). Thats why I wanted to point out those things as I do know these things and do know how to work safe. I did'nt wanna look like I defend unsafe workenvironments (if it makes sense)
(And i did mention in a post that I did work wit the window open, but just below I explain that I't wasn't what I ment, just a case of typing then eit something and then forgetting to read the whole thing)

Sometimes it's very hard to explain yourself in a language thats not your own in terms of the not attacking part. I have to think about spelling and grammar and trying to keep it short, so maybe it comes out the wrong way?
I want to make it very clear that I was not trying to be rude here, or attack or be hostile in any way. And I'm very sorry if it came across that way.

I did not think you were being rude in any way. Just sorry that you felt you had to defend yourself at all.

Many of us know how to work using good safe habits .. it doesn't mean we have no interest in new things that may be even safer for us. If you think the machine helps or appears to help then that is fine and dandy. Doug (as always) likes people to know the REAL facts and I'm sure you also appreciate knowing them.

Many people know the REAL facts about smoking ... it still doesn't stop them from doing it does it??

As long as you know the reality behind the machine there is no harm in using it even if there may be no good in using it either. But in all conscience, neither could Doug recommend to anyone that they purchase a gadget that he clearly knows has no real benefit. As he said, he wishes he could say it did ... that would be a great thing for the industry and all of us.

For what it is worth, your English is outstandingly good .. I did not even know it was not your first language ... respect.

 

[NoLimitNails]

Thank you for the part about my english, I try to do my best.

And yes I suck in every bit of information and like to hear it from the "ones who know" meaning Doug, you and so many others who have been in the industry for years.

I know I'm not working as safe as I wish I could, theres no way I could get ventilation in my livingroom. Thats why i have tried to do other things, so if Doug has the time maybe he could answer this:
I have 1 or 2 clients pr week (don't want more until I have a place to work from), I use the information given by your book and also by Geeg and geeks to minimize odors, vapours and dust. I have a partigone(small portable punctual suction) which I place outside (the base unit where the air gets out) so even if partcles get through the filter they don't end up inside. I clean and ventilate (after clients) before my children gets home. But is this an ok way? (regarding my family)

I know it's not the best, but I have read the book and other useful information on here, so thought I was doing as much as I could to eliminate risk. But is it enough? Or is there no way I should be working from home ?

Thanks for your time and help...

 

[geeg]

I am not Doug (but I have learned allot from him over the last 25 years ) ... so I think I can say with confidence that with the precautions you are taking and the small amount of work you do, that you and your family are perfectly safe.

We are not working with lethal products. It is more about the concentration of dust and vapours and even in bad situations, these concentrations are way below the levels that would be considered dangerous.

So keep doing what you are doing. Being aware of potential risks and taking precautions to work safely and to control your environment ... this is the most important thing.

Thank you for the part about my english, I try to do my best.

And yes I suck in every bit of information and like to hear it from the "ones who know" meaning Doug, you and so many others who have been in the industry for years.

I know I'm not working as safe as I wish I could, theres no way I could get ventilation in my livingroom. Thats why i have tried to do other things, so if Doug has the time maybe he could answer this:
I have 1 or 2 clients pr week (don't want more until I have a place to work from), I use the information given by your book and also by Geeg and geeks to minimize odors, vapours and dust. I have a partigone(small portable punctual suction) which I place outside (the base unit where the air gets out) so even if partcles get through the filter they don't end up inside. I clean and ventilate (after clients) before my children gets home. But is this an ok way? (regarding my family)

I know it's not the best, but I have read the book and other useful information on here, so thought I was doing as much as I could to eliminate risk. But is it enough? Or is there no way I should be working from home ?

Thanks for your time and help...

 

[NoLimitNails]

Thanks thats what I was trying to do :hug: