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Hi All
I'm currently studying my NVQ level 2, when I asked my tutor what I should use as a toner, she said you can use whatever tint you want with whatever strength peroxide you want but just apply it to wet hair. I just wondered what most people use for a toner? I am using matrix products and doing bleach highlights on my friends hair next week and wondered what to use as a toner. Would you just choose and Ash blonde with a 10 vol if they looked a bit yellow?
 
Hi All
I'm currently studying my NVQ level 2, when I asked my tutor what I should use as a toner, she said you can use whatever tint you want with whatever strength peroxide you want but just apply it to wet hair. I just wondered what most people use for a toner? I am using matrix products and doing bleach highlights on my friends hair next week and wondered what to use as a toner. Would you just choose and Ash blonde with a 10 vol if they looked a bit yellow?

Whatever peroxide?silly woman... The sp's are good for toning as in spm spv and spa with the colour sync developer. Which shade you choose depends on what you're trying to counteract. Just refer back to your colour wheel and see which colour is best for neutralising the yellow x

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When toning your using one colour to counteract another it's the rules of your colour star, it's not a case of just whacking any colour on, for example if your colour turns out yellow you will want to tone with and ash which is blue to counteract the yellow. I use wella and my favourite toners are 8/81 and 10/16, however in matrix so colour they do the sheer pastels for toning SPA or SPV, when I used matrix I found these better than using anything from socolour as they're a lot kinder to the hair as there's no ammonia in them x good luck xx
 
G'ah! Your tutor's talking absolute rubbish.

For instance, you'd never use a permanent tint with 9% (30vol) to tone, even on wet hair. It would make no sense.

Your tutor should be giving you much clearer information about the how's and whys to tone than this. Pull her up on it and ask for more guidance.
 
Hi :) that's a bit crazy whats she's told you. Toners are used for reducing or neutralising unwanted colours. Every brand of colour comes with a colour wheel, you need to look at the colour wheel for your brand of colour, the colours opposite each other are what you usually would use, for example, yellow is straight across from purple, if someone has a pale yellow hair colour, you would most likely use a violet to tone with, not all toners have to be an ash, and I would only usually use a 5 or maybe sometimes 10 vol, putting anything higher than that on hair that's already been bleach could cause unwanted damage :) you will work it all out :)
 
When toning your using one colour to counteract another it's the rules of your colour star, it's not a case of just whacking any colour on, for example if your colour turns out yellow you will want to tone with and ash which is blue to counteract the yellow. I use wella and my favourite toners are 8/81 and 10/16, however in matrix so colour they do the sheer pastels for toning SPA or SPV, when I used matrix I found these better than using anything from socolour as they're a lot kinder to the hair as there's no ammonia in them x good luck xx

Blue isnt to counteract yellow x

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Oops I meant violet! I did know that 😛😛😛
 
I didn't think it sounded right what she said. Thank you for all your help!
 
Oops I meant violet! I did know that 😛😛😛

Haha we all have those moments x x

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Good job it was on salon geek and not when I'm at the backwash mixing up a toner 😂😂😂😂 x x
 
Good job it was on salon geek and not when I'm at the backwash mixing up a toner 😂😂😂😂 x x

It would probably still work just not the ideal one haha x

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Yeah I'll never forget once at college someone once put 1:0 on a client as a toner at the backwash instead of 10:1 to tone I don't see how you could mix that up!!!!
 
Yeah I'll never forget once at college someone once put 1:0 on a client as a toner at the backwash instead of 10:1 to tone I don't see how you could mix that up!!!!

Oh no 🙈what happened

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We'll the girl had used bleach and 12% in foils under heat so the hair was obviously very porus the girl applied it massaged it in I quickly noticed so said that's not a 10 and emptied some wella service onto it to try and stop oxidisation, thankful because the hair being the hair being bleached up with 12% a good few clarifying shampoos took a lot of it out and just left it like the really dark ashy grey blonde, the woman then booked in with me the next week and I did a bleach bath! then I coloured her hair all over with a quasi level 7 then a few weeks layer she had a full head of highlights with bleach and pastel, I don't think she ever went back to college when I left!
 
I always got taught to use 3% or 2.7% if you use the matrix shear pastels. I think 10AV is a nice toner in blonde ☺️ gives it a bit more depth than an SPV
 
Can anyone help (sorry to jump on the post) but I'm going to be using color sync spv but haven't got the activator, would i be okay using 10vol?? X
 

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