Violet Star
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I have 17 years experience behind me with life, I may not have as much as you im not denying that but i have 17 years worth.
Want to start training - what should i do?
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I have 17 years experience behind me with life, I may not have as much as you im not denying that but i have 17 years worth.
Beautification
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i understand what you mean i'm a similar age and i get the same said to me it's annoying because i spend all the hours of my life doing beauty and have no time for friends like other people our age and i know i could do it!
You need to have upto a level 3 in what you want to teach in and then do a pgce at your local coll it's a uni course but u study at ur local coll whilst working in a college at the same time.
Heres the thing.....Calla ,generally speaking,is absolutely correct and I would certainly not have appointed a trainer at 17yrs of age and somewhat surprised that the company that has ...well erm.... has:hug:
That is a generally speaking perspective ........so now for the pat on the back for maybe the exceptional one VS
Setting aside weather or not the organization should have appointed you..the mere fact they have (someone who is 17 years young) is either a sign of desperation on their part or that you are potentially a shining star or a good blagger :idea:
The thing is.... as you have managed it
it certainly demonstrates something that's for sure....and that only leaves me for one to give you one hell of a WELL DONE.If you have achieved this so early on in your involvement in this business and at your age and if you are ,as you say you are,being accepted by those you train and that you conduct yourself in a professional manner then...wow that ain't half bad going :hug:
Makes me wonder where you could be by the time you've been doing this for a decade or so
Well done and lets hope you go from strength to strength :hug:
To give you some food for thought..I was the same ..working like a dog instead of having a good time..by the time I was 27 I had a national company with with over 100 staff working for me which I sold a year or so later for a tidy little sum to a large group operation :hug:
Ok there are 2 sides to this......30 years more experience on your part, life experience and so forth but equally 30 years worth of ruts to potentially be stuck in, and "my way or the highway" attitudes, opinions formed and routines and thought patterns that are hard to step out of. Now I am not for one second saying this is always the case but I am playing devils advocate and showing a different side to this.
VS may only be 17, but who even suggested she left school at 16??
While VS has youth on her side as opposed to years of experience, she is very fresh and full of enthusiasm, drive and ambition, passion and an open mind to her career.....these are not bad qualities, they are exactly what the industry needs!! How many threads do we read about waxing tutors stuck in the arc ages telling students hot waxing isnt done these days, talc and never iol must be used and so forth.......
There are hundreds you more "youthful" trainers out there (as well as more mature ones) many many bigger training companies have younger trainers. VS merely expressed a desire and passion for being a private trainer and asked how to go about it......
Lynne Baker
Lynne The Skin!
And how many of those years have you dealt with stroppy customers, recalcitrant suppliers, broken equipment, insurance companies, faulty goods, tax issues, industry trends, legislation, legal claims?
Your 17 years of experience is, of course, valid, but it isn't enough to run a training school. You're just making your life way too difficult for yourself. Why not consolidate the training you've got so far, enjoy being a therapist and then come back to it.
Life isn't a sprint to the finish, it's an endurance course. Make sure you enjoy the journey!
Your 17 years of experience is, of course, valid, but it isn't enough to run a training school. You're just making your life way too difficult for yourself. Why not consolidate the training you've got so far, enjoy being a therapist and then come back to it.
Life isn't a sprint to the finish, it's an endurance course. Make sure you enjoy the journey!
Violet Star
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My aim is not to teach anything else now to do so in the future, so when i do want to train i will know what route to go down.
I really would appreciate if my age didnt come into threads when i ask questions, i feel like i cant ask anything as people will either tell me i cant do it, im too young, i cant do this or that. That part of it is down to me to decide. And you as another professional to help answer my question. I dont particularly like being discriminated
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I really would appreciate if my age didnt come into threads when i ask questions, i feel like i cant ask anything as people will either tell me i cant do it, im too young, i cant do this or that. That part of it is down to me to decide. And you as another professional to help answer my question. I dont particularly like being discriminated
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essentia
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Hi Violet Star,
I have read your post and I think it depends on how good you are at your skill and at training. I have been on refresher courses with trainers who have been older and have not been so good but I was taught spray tanning by a young girl and she was excellent. If you act a true professional then I think it can be done. However it is desirable that you have good salon experience behind you and that you will be able to handle all types of people.:hug:
Calla - Forgive me but when I first met you last year you had no beauty training - where is the 15 years experience?
One things for sure VS...your gonna still be here long after we've all long gone off this earth so I guess that's one positive attribute we don't have the good fortune to share with you
Put your age into the back of your mind...move forward without relevance or reference to it and get stuck in and "kick some ass" and make a path for yourself :hug:
Lynne Baker
Lynne The Skin!
I qualified in 1994 from Eastleigh college having studied for 2 years Aromatherapy (blending of essential oils) and massage.
Violet Star
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One things for sure VS...your gonna still be here long after we've all long gone off this earth so I guess that's one positive attribute we don't have the good fortune to share with you
very positive collin
Chameleon
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I think this thread has come full circle...i still believe too many people take too many short cuts...it is all ok having the enthusiasm and drive...but i still think experienceis an attribute...and that is all i have to say on this:!:
very positive collin
Will you promise to come tend my grave then for the twenty (or more
) years then VS :lol::lol:
High Hopes
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This has turned into a really interesting thread!
In my opinion i dont think age "should" come into it but it certainly does. Unfortunately i have to say that i am guilty in that if i turned up to a training session and my tutor was obviously very young i wouldnt have much confidence. Maybe i am wrong for that but i think its just human nature.
In the same sense i am only 22 (only just!!) and i wouldnt feel confident yet to train somebody as i am still learning everyday myself.
I admire violet stars passion for wanting to expand and move up, i think its fantastic!! However i dont think 2 years in the beauty industry is anywhere near enough to train people. I am coming into my fifth year and am still going on refresher courses and learning! also making mistakes
I say go for your dream but not until your definately ready to make it work fantastically for you!!
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In my opinion i dont think age "should" come into it but it certainly does. Unfortunately i have to say that i am guilty in that if i turned up to a training session and my tutor was obviously very young i wouldnt have much confidence. Maybe i am wrong for that but i think its just human nature.
In the same sense i am only 22 (only just!!) and i wouldnt feel confident yet to train somebody as i am still learning everyday myself.
I admire violet stars passion for wanting to expand and move up, i think its fantastic!! However i dont think 2 years in the beauty industry is anywhere near enough to train people. I am coming into my fifth year and am still going on refresher courses and learning! also making mistakes
I say go for your dream but not until your definately ready to make it work fantastically for you!!
xxx
High Hopes
Well-Known Member
I actually feel a song coming on. . . .
"reach up for the stars. . . "
"reach up for the stars. . . "
Susie H
Well-Known Member
So if I've understood this right, VS either needs to attend collage for 3 years to get a level 3 qualification, by which time she will be 20, followed by 1 year pgc making her 21..................
Or she needs to get in with a company and work her way up with them, which would probably take her 3 or 4 years which makes her 21...............
Or she can carry on working and saving and take individual courses which will take her at least 4 years, oh look VS there you are again, 21
Which is the age my son's English teacher was when she took over his GCSE group, had her meeting with me and promised me she would not let his dream of joining the army fall by the way side because his English gcse didn't meet the mark. That 21 year old kept her promise, he got a C.
But maybe she shouldn't have been a teacher because her drive and passion to help and drive people to be their best isn't enough, she needs to have been around the block a few times, like me, to be a good teacher. :irked:
I have life experience and then some, but no, I am not a teacher, I don't have that spark in me that makes a nervous student see how easy it is to do something, that makes it all crystal clear..............................
Reach for your dreams VS we were all 17 once:hug:
Or she needs to get in with a company and work her way up with them, which would probably take her 3 or 4 years which makes her 21...............
Or she can carry on working and saving and take individual courses which will take her at least 4 years, oh look VS there you are again, 21
Which is the age my son's English teacher was when she took over his GCSE group, had her meeting with me and promised me she would not let his dream of joining the army fall by the way side because his English gcse didn't meet the mark. That 21 year old kept her promise, he got a C.
But maybe she shouldn't have been a teacher because her drive and passion to help and drive people to be their best isn't enough, she needs to have been around the block a few times, like me, to be a good teacher. :irked:
I have life experience and then some, but no, I am not a teacher, I don't have that spark in me that makes a nervous student see how easy it is to do something, that makes it all crystal clear..............................
Reach for your dreams VS we were all 17 once:hug:
Lynne Baker
Lynne The Skin!
For all my concern about this I should say that at least you have some ambition for your life! Too many young women have little or no aspiration, and seem to think that the best they can achieve is to have a baby by the time they're 18 and live a miserable life on benefits.
Good on you for not taking the easy route.
Good on you for not taking the easy route.
angelina221
Master Lash Tech
I admire your enthusiasm, i really do. It's nice to see someone so young completely dedicated and it makes a refreshing change.
But (you knew there would be one)
Even when someone is completely dedicated, people will still be put off by someones age-i'm afraid it's just one of those things!
I have people coming into my salon ask if the therapist is just out of college. Whether it's right or wrong it does put some people off.
Anyone looking through your threads will see you want to learn loads and that is great. Then you have days when you feel like giving up. You also ask a lot of questions about things and that is a great way to learn but it also shows that you are not ready yet.
I can see that you want to master every art and i would concentrate on doing all you want to do first and then think about training a few years down the line.
I think you're great Violet but you really need to learn to walk before you can run and i wish you every success in doing so :hug:
But (you knew there would be one
)Even when someone is completely dedicated, people will still be put off by someones age-i'm afraid it's just one of those things!
I have people coming into my salon ask if the therapist is just out of college. Whether it's right or wrong it does put some people off.
Anyone looking through your threads will see you want to learn loads and that is great. Then you have days when you feel like giving up. You also ask a lot of questions about things and that is a great way to learn but it also shows that you are not ready yet.
I can see that you want to master every art and i would concentrate on doing all you want to do first and then think about training a few years down the line.
I think you're great Violet but you really need to learn to walk before you can run and i wish you every success in doing so :hug:
