Brisa Or Bio Sculpture

[geeg]

Hi, Gigi, in response to your message, I paid in excess of £1k -including travelling to/from Bridgend for my Brisa training. For the coversion to Bio, it was £435.
In terms of time, like I said, it's more profitable for me to do Bio. But it might be just myself. I tried various other gels -as you do- but Bio is by far the best choice -for me.
Jules

That's all cool but to cost your education expenses into the equation is not fair. In terms of the cost of product ... Brisa is VERY affordable compared to Bio. Not really a fair comparison. We were talking about cost of product.

I mean , you just paint it on and it is cool on SOME clients who already have strong nails (a bit like wraps). Brisa will do both that types of overlay and it will enhance any type of nail as well. Two services for the price of one IMHO. As a business woman I like that.

 

[spn01]

I am not one for heaps of products cluttering the work station and as a "smart" businesswoman I like to invest in products that are of quality and have multiple purposes.
Currently I offer enamel to both gel and l&p clients if they choose colour (fingers and toes)

Can you please advise with the mixable Brisa Gel colours:
- what tool do you use to measure the gel
- after you have applied the colour (in place of enamel) do you wipe off inhibition layer before applying top gloss
- can you put Brisa colour (in place of enamel) over l&p

So many questions, I know, and thank you for your advise

 

[july]

Yes, Gigi, I hear you saying that Brisa products are cheaper but you can't put a price on time -2hrs on a full set for £30 -that's just not good enough for me.
There isn't ONE SINGLE Brisa tech in Bristol -before I did my training I wanted to have a set done and couldn't find anybody. My trainer (Andrea) found one tech in Cornwall -3hrs away from here. All the numbers I got from HQ for techs in Bristol -none of them were offering Brisa.
Bio is easy, they have the free edge to creat a tip -ok, it might not be for everybody, but then so is Brisa, not everybody is suitable for it.

I suppose I'm a bit bitter for spending all that money, time and stressing out for failing to create the enhancement that I wanted.
Jules

 

[Zingara]

Just, again, for my input, I find the cost of both systems really quite comparable.

Bio Sculpture gels are more expensive than Brisa, but the additional products used with them, (Lamps, Bulbs, Solutions, Brushes, and varying product support items such as cuticle remover) are considerably cheaper from Bio Sculpture.

The 'whole' cost of an actual set/service of each therefore, is practically identical, not taking into account individuals tinme, which in my case is about the same for each system anyway.

 

[Myden]

OK, Just a bit of input from someone who does both Bio and Brisa.

Firstly, I personally don't believe the 2 to be even comparable. They are totally different and sit very well alongside one another in a portfolio for different clients, so I would never choose one over the other. Yes, they are both gels, but IMO they are as alike as gel versus L&P.

Yes, if you want a change of colour with Bio you do tend to remove and replace. Actually I do occasionally infill but it is actually quicker to remove and start again! From when a client comes through the door, the gel is off and the nails prepped within 15 minutes, and are lovely and strong waiting for another application. It doesn't take more than 5 minutes to soak the Bio off....and I personally find this quicker than filing down! The nails are in contact with the remover for so little time they suffer no drying or adverse effects.

However, if I have a client who is tough on her nails, has french finish week in week out, never changes her style or colour and I have to regularly extend, then in my opinion, they are better off with Brisa. It is tougher on a heavy handed clients (although Bio extends very well and is very durable, duie to a good level of flexibility) That, by the way, is not to do with lifting.....I get no lifting ever with Bio (but do on occasion with other products). Its more to do with the strength of the enhancments and full on nail breakages!

I usually get any new Bio Clients converted to NNO's within 3 or 4 services (if they needed extending to start, the nails are grown out to a lovely length within a few weeks) and then the overlay is usually sufficient to protect against any breakages.

My colour clients aren't happy with polish over gel.....they do not believe it stands the test of time as long as a UV cured colour gel, and I have to say I tend to agree. Yes polish last longer on an enhancement than natural nail, but whether a file off or soak off colour gel....it does keep its colour and brilliance so much longer than polish.

To be fair.....the majority of clients for me are Bio Sculpture, and that has been driven by customer demand. I am lucky in that a huge proportion of my clientele are regulars, and new ones have come from word of mouth, asking for Bio Sculpture, as they love it on my other clients they have seen, but I wouldn't be without Brisa in my portfolio. I personally believe that having both has paid dividends and would pay for itself for any tech, so my best advixe woiuld be save some pennies to get both in....I think it will pay for itself in the very short term in a larger and loyal client base.

I would like to know how you soak off in 5mins? I set my timer for 15min as my first hand goes in the mitt as trained. Are you telling me that I could set it for 5? Some clients gel is still stubborn even after 15 esp if they have had a wrap. Some just falls of but they tend to be clients who have a tendency to get some lift.

 

[mely-bely]

Yes, Gigi, I hear you saying that Brisa products are cheaper but you can't put a price on time -2hrs on a full set for £30 -that's just not good enough for me.
There isn't ONE SINGLE Brisa tech in Bristol -before I did my training I wanted to have a set done and couldn't find anybody. My trainer (Andrea) found one tech in Cornwall -3hrs away from here. All the numbers I got from HQ for techs in Bristol -none of them were offering Brisa.
Bio is easy, they have the free edge to creat a tip -ok, it might not be for everybody, but then so is Brisa, not everybody is suitable for it.

I suppose I'm a bit bitter for spending all that money, time and stressing out for failing to create the enhancement that I wanted.
Jules

I so totally have to respond to this - of course Bio is quicker - you polish it on~anyone can do this as it requires minimal skill. It takes practice, hours and hours of practice, to be able to do a beautiful set of gels or l&p properly.

I mean you no disrespect as its your choice, but seriously, I feel that you cannot compare a paint on-polish like product that requires minimal skill to a product that requires skill/talent and practice to work with properly.

Glad you love Bio and have found a product that works for you, but IMHO, you cannot be bitter towards Brisa because you chose not to take the time to learn the skill. I understand that you started with Brisa 2 years ago, but there is so much help out there to troubleshoot the issues you were having.

Sorry love, I guess I got a bit offended when you said you like Bio because its easy. I don't know you and don't wish to come off as a harpy - I just don't understand why any tech would limit him/herself to one particular service. As you stated, Bio and Brisa arent for everyone. What about wraps and l&p? I believe in giving clients a choice.

Before all of you Bio techs start givin me hell, when I said it requires minimal skill to use - I did not mean that you are not skilled techs. Most of the Bio techs I know use Bio as well as another gel system. They are all very skilled techs who use Bio for NNO or on top of their other gel for color.