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The whole beauty guru thing confused me too so thanks for clearing that up!

For what its worth, i love salongeek just the way it is!

I too would love it if there was a serarate Tanning section but thats just me, I can easily live without one as I also see the other side of the coin...as in if The Geek creates a tanning forum then others would want a specific forum for their specialised area.

More video tutorials would be great...I look forward to mooching around the updated Articles and Tutorials section as and when........Thats another thing I love about this site, there are regular enough updates to keep the site fresh with out making any drastic changes!

Happy Geeking Everyone xx
 
One 'change' I would love is to bring geekmolians back !!!!

They were really fun weren't they?? We had loads of laughs and fun with those ... Being a bit of a miser, I had shed loads of money in the bank when we abandoned them!! :irked: But one reason I have abandoned facebook is the amount of work I have to do to clear up all the requests and kisses and flowers and proposals of marriage and hugs etc that get sent ... I can't be doing with it .. I just want to see who has contacted me (which is the original purpose of the site which has all got lost somewhere in all the extra useless features) I have better things to do with my time.

I think Salongeek thanks to Sam the Grand Master has been way ahead of its time in actual fact, in that we have had many features that we have since decided to do without. Don't know if many are aware that this site has won AWARDS !! Yes we are truely award winning!! :green: so something (many things in fact) work well.

It is a great place Salon Geek. It is fun, it is also seriously for professionals who want to improve their knowledge of all sorts of things ... and they know they get the facts. It is thankfully not all gobbed up with adds and useless 'features'. Many have stayed for years to help and to give .... many use the site for a purpose and then leave .. only to come visit again when they need genuine help. All that is good. There is a spirit here that can and will not be duplicated anywhere else. THAT is really quite special. IMHO

As you said Bombini there are always a few sharks in the bay but it is so obvious who they are and why they are here that it is pretty easy to take no notice and just swim on by. :hug:
 
I love SalonGeek:green:

But what I love even more is the fact that NOONE (at least from what I have seen) is putting other sites down.

I just think it's useless, why putting so much time into that? If you like a site and another why not be on both? That's not so hard is it?

I'm not gonna badmouth other sites but to post on another non salon geek forum that you have just upset the Geek is just plain ignorant! I cannot for the life of it se why it would be relevant to anyone... I didn't reply on the other forum, as I saw NO RELEVANSE at all discussing another forum! But on here you started this yourself.

Still I'm gonna wish you a great day despite...:hug:
 
I have checked out the other site, just to have a nose, really and to answer Steve's question, actually salon geek is exactly what i want, personally.

I find the extras a bit of a hassle really because i just like to read the threads, help if i can, and get my questions answered. I'm quite tired at the end of the day and i like the ease of this site.

Its nice that the option is there of course, so i'll guess we'll find out in the long run what people prefer, by where the members are.

SAM...please don't change a thing! This site suits me perfectly.

Oh and i don't like music playing in the background, it distracts me from what i'm reading/ typing LOL xx
 
I'd just like to add I love that this site is extremely mobile user friendly. A lot of other forums aren't.

Not too sure my day job would agree that's a good thing.
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According to website registration it is our very own number1kitty

Mmmmm I had a feeling there was a possible connection when I looked at the site in question.

Why oh why do people have to use this site to rack up trade and pay nothing towards advertising costs. I bet a lot of them wouldn't have half the business they have today without this site. I was thinking earlier that the Sams, Geeg and Mods don't push CND or any other brand they are affiliated with yet they are the very people who would be completely within their rights to do so seeing as they own/run the site !

Also not sure if the policing comment is in reference to the amount of chit chat but I prefer it how it is now, there were just to many threads about complete drival before although i do miss Adeles shows, what happened to them ?!
 
Please don't change Salon Geek....I have only worked out how to use it properly. I love Salon Geek just the way it is :)
 
For the record, I love Salon Geek, and will continue to be a proud member of this site, and happily renew my Premium Geek membership when it comes up for renewal next year.

But the new site looks as though it has potential in other ways.

I personally like the music player, for example - primarily because I can upload my own music to it (for which I have copyright of course, as I composed, played and recorded it). Even better that the tunes are hosted on their server, so not eating into my bandwidth for MP3 files that are 10MB+ in size.

But the new site will never replace or supersede Salon Geek in my eyes - but it will complement it.

I don't see any point in being strictly monogamous when it comes to choice of web site to use anyway - it's like some days I might want to play rock on the hi-fi, and on other days I'm in the mood for classical, but just because I like rock doesn't mean that I like classical any less...
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Oh :confused: i thought it was beauty guru too.

I think there is room for both sites, more sites even.Nothing wrong with competition.Can't stand blooming music on sites especially if it keeps changing when you change your page.
I also just want to read whats what , im not much fun in a virtual world :) i dont want people sending me flowers and poking me.
 
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That is the number of members this site has. That is a very big thumbs up for the site. :lol:

I look at other sites, but Salon Geek is always my first port of call. But Sam I beg you! Please create a tanning only forum. It doesn't need to be within the skin forum and creates enough posts to warrant it's own now. It is just so frustrating to plough through all their posts to try and find one about skincare which interests me.:)

Is there a reason why it can;t be changed when so many would like it to be?:hug:
 
Ruth, it does eat into your bandwidth. First the bandwidth to upload 10m+ files. Secondly to stream it to you as you listen to it. If you didn't want it eating into your bandwidth, use Windows Media Player to listen to it from your own machine. And really, lets ask ourselves how many people will own the copyrights to post music? And again, how relevant is that? Do you choose your bank based on who offers music players on their website?

Whistles and bells are fun to play with and generally attract people who want to play with them before they get old hat. However whistles and bells are not meat and potatoes and as such leave you a little hungry for something more.

Over the years, we have introduced many whistles and bells. Those that provide long term value to the community stay and become folded into the site. Others go.

Unpacking an off the shelf web package like SocialGo doesn't suddenly create a community no more than unpacking any off the shelf community software. Trying to poach people from here won't create a community either. The many sites over the years that have taken this path in a vain attempt to recreate our success generally get populated by disgruntled self-exiled geeks who form rather... hollow shells that bustle in activity complaining about here (like Steve's comment on tweet about not wanting tweet to get biased like we all are over here :rolleyes:). Well, thats all good and fun for the whiners, but when the dust settles, well... Whats left to do apart from spam each other?

So about once a year, another site pops up trying to duplicate what we have here. One day I am sure someone can pull it off and create a real compliment to SalonGeek, but in the meantime the mods and I will have a new URL to forward the banned users to instead of the traditional one.

Since I am on a roll here. I'll take a minute to address a couple other points that have been brought up in this thread.

We will discuss a tanning forum again, but I'll share with you the reasoning behind the lack of one now. Less is best when it comes to forums. More forums means more searching and sifting and duplicate content. You also split activity between multiple locations which has an odd effect of decreasing activity in both areas. Obviously if activity has gotten to the point where it isn't beneficial to have them lumped together, then that is the point it needs to change, however it must benefit the majority of the users while respecting the needs of the rest (aka the 6,000 people a day that come here). We have split forums up like this before (The Nail Geek forum) but got better synergy when we merged them.

Geekmolians were fun. The reason they left is because of a couple security holes that were identified in the system that handled them. I looked into fixing them, but it wasn't my code and tbh, it was written so poorly and so messily that it would have been better to code my own from scratch. I simply don't have that time and the reality is that they didn't add much value to the site other than they were kind of fun (which is still value). One day they may return, but it isn't a high priority.

Geekbay. Think I covered that earlier. I still wake up in a cold sweat on that one.

Chatroom. Covered that too. It isn't top priority to get fixed because the reality is that it wasn't a heavily used area of the site. Better visibility and usability would make this more of a core feature, but that bridge will have to be crossed after the major update later this year.

Pager. I actually miss this one the most. Like Geekmolians, security issues were identified in the system (which I didn't write). I spent a great deal of time reworking and rewriting the system from top to bottom, but sadly had to shelve it for awhile to focus on other issues. Ideally I would want to combine the Pager functionality and some chatroom functionality.

Links, articles and tutorials are all getting royally revamped later this year along with the social groups and blogs. My goal is to integrate these areas far more to simplify communication and give better, relevant exposure to the user in a more intuitive fashion. These changes may be phased in after the upgrade, but a lot will take place during it.

I am also looking to revamp the calender and events system, but not sure yet if this will take place in the big upgrade, or come later. The team have also discussed plans for event notifications/model requests/salon space area for interim use. We will see how the upgrade progresses first.

Music player. No. Won't go there. :lol:

Think that about covers the waterfront and after creating that overview, I think I need to spend less time blabbering in this post and more time working on the next version :D

Rock on Geeks :)
 
Ruth, it does eat into your bandwidth. First the bandwidth to upload 10m+ files. Secondly to stream it to you as you listen to it. If you didn't want it eating into your bandwidth, use Windows Media Player to listen to it from your own machine.

LOL, I was meaning that it wasn't eating into my web server's bandwidth for other people to listen to the tunes :)
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Could we do a poll on the tanning geek to see what the interest would be?
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Could we do a poll on the tanning geek to see what the interest would be?
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Please don't. We don't make layout and logistical decisions based on polls. The reason being that these decisions can be fairly complex as I outlined above.

For instance, if we had a poll titled "Would you like to have a separate area for L&P discussions, Gel Discussions, Manicure Discussions and Pedicure Discussions", why would people say "no"? They wouldn't because... well... why not? The reason why not is because there is already an area for that. Splitting all discussions into separate forums means that there are more 'rooms' to go through in order to find what they are looking for. It also would play hell on threads that span those more 'niche' forums.

Anyhoo, like I said. It will be discussed more and hopefully we can look into at least giving it a whirl.
 
Please don't. We don't make layout and logistical decisions based on polls. The reason being that these decisions can be fairly complex as I outlined above.

For instance, if we had a poll titled "Would you like to have a separate area for L&P discussions, Gel Discussions, Manicure Discussions and Pedicure Discussions", why would people say "no"? They wouldn't because... well... why not? The reason why not is because there is already an area for that. Splitting all discussions into separate forums means that there are more 'rooms' to go through in order to find what they are looking for. It also would play hell on threads that span those more 'niche' forums.

Anyhoo, like I said. It will be discussed more and hopefully we can look into at least giving it a whirl.

HMPH so no DIY section then I guess...even without piped music would have been fine :cry::rolleyes:
 
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Sorry, but my instinct would be a no. My goal isn't to attract general consumers learning how to do professional treatments to save a few quid. It's to attract the professionals that are performing the services :)
 
after all it is OUR community is it not and this is a democracy

No it isn't - it's Sam's bus and if you don't like how it's being driven you can get off.

but( here comes the double edged sword) if this sites appearance was a salon it would be back combing and blue rinse for philys and gladys

You are bang out of order with this comment. This is an educational site, designed and used by salon professionals. It has more up to date information than most 'educational establishments' especially in the nail world. Sorry if that's a bit 'blue rinse' for you.

Sorry if I am being thick now but isnt Salongeek designed and dedicated to offering support, advice and help to professionals and those who want to become therapists?

Totally. That's it. The community that exists here has grown from mutual goals, sharing practice and ideas, troubleshooting, sharing information and incredibly generous members of my industry. It's not a 'who can get the most friends competition'. Those with ulterior motives always get found out.

It seems like the only ones who whine about the rules on here are those who wish to break them....(the ones who want to advertise FOC and push their products down people's throats)....People with no hidden agenda who simple come on here to share, learn and help others never seem to mind the rules and understand why they are in place.

I think some people would get along much better on SalonGeek.com if they finally realised what this site is about....and stopped trying to make this site what they want it to be about.

Too damn right.

I am seriously upset by this thread. Sam doesn't get paid to give us Salongeek, he does it out of a desire to raise standards in an unregulated industry. I think to have joined a month ago and post a thread like this is deeply insulting and I admire Samuel's restraint in his replies to you. How dare you come here and moan about it? If you don't like it, don't click the button from your favourites list....... Oh but then you wont be able to grab customers of your wares will you? I'm glad you've nailed your colours to the mast, I hope the tanning geeks see them as well.

Sam, don't change a thing - but then what would I know? I've only been a member for 5 years!
 
First: forgive me, but haven't read entire thread. Client arriving any second.. but here's my 2pence (2 cents..)

DON'T FIX IT IF IT AIN'T BROKE


I would hate to see this site go the way of Facebook (which has become FAR too cluttered with all the stupid ap's and games:rolleyes: and is starting to annoy the crap outta me, most days).
The point of this site is to share info, and LEARN

Yes, we have a lovely community and have created some lifelong friendships for which I am grateful. Don't get me wrong.
But this site is about the industry.
I don't need bells and whistles to fancy things up (which only slow things down when pages are loading.. LIKE FACEBOOK...grrrr)
When I need to find info, I like to find it 'now' and not go crazy trying to find it, and sort through all sorts of garbage and whatnot AND I don't want to have to wait forever for a page to load to learn that it's NOT what I was looking for.

This site does exactly what was intended : it teaches, it shares information, it provides support and direction and UNITES nail techs (beauty techs) on an international front.

And for those that don't like it, I got two words but I'm not allowed to use them here.

If you find that this site doesn't meet your needs, then you know where the door is; open it, leave, and go create your own and good luck with your technicolor/acid-induced dreams of creating anything even remotely comparable.
It won't happen.

And yes, PLEASE let the door slam ya in the backside on your way out.
I mean that rather literally.:smack:

To Sam, Samantha, Geeg and the mods: You're doing a fab job, don't change.
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Does this site, Salon Geek, need an update?

My answer................NO!

I really don't think this thread will get any other answer tbh, and Sam has been quite forthright in all the whys and why nots therefore I don't see the point of this thread any more.

One more thing though.....I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I don't think there is any malicious intent by the thread starter............but it does make me wonder if he goes about telling people their babies are ugly lol :eek:
 
I like the site just as it is, it evolves at a steady rate and I wouldn't say it was old fashioned. The main thing is the content and that's why I came here.
 
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