Electric facial

[Lilai]

Hi, I completed the electric facial course recently that included Galvanic, microccurent, microdermabrasion, High frequency, infra. I looking to buy the equipments. I bought Microdermabrasion before. I went to Excel yesterday and found the new Galvanic device called NU Skin, has anyone heard about this? I had a demo on myself and saw the very instant result. I have a therapy room at home and not looking for expensive machine.

I also like to know about Radio frequency which seems very new and advance. Which of the above treatments are very popular, particularly for anti ageing, face lift or non sergical treatments? I like light therapy and quite liked the Carlton light therapy device which is not expensive.
Please advcie . Thank you x

 

[ukbeauty]

I could not survive without microcurrent, galvanic and high frequency, but Facials are 95% of my business.
I am also interested in Radio Frequency for the face.
Interestingly, I tried a Nu Skin facial and was quite impressed, although when I took a quick peak at the machine, I thought it looked very much like a home use machine?

 

[Lilai]

Thank you for your reply. I agree the NU skin is like a home use and doesn't look professional salon use, but the result of the device was very instant, although didn't last long.
Do you recommend any brand for Microcurrent, galvanic, and high frequency?
Thanks again for your advice

 

[fozzyo]

For me Carlton is my company of choice ... British made, quality products with excellent support and warranty.

Or if you want a cheaper machine try Cosmetronic.

 

[SilhouetteUK]

Microcurrent, Microdermabrasion, Galvanic and Hi-Freguency are amongst our bestsellers and give visible results.

You mention that you've had a demo of the Galvanic at ExCel, did you manage to have/see any other demonstrations that could perhaps help you with your decision?

As Fozzyo has mentioned, it's also worth looking at a businesses aftercare as well as the machine.

Silhouette International (Dermalift) have been a trade supplier for over 38 years (we've just celebrated our birthday!), our products are all manufactured from our offices here in the UK, we have a dedicated aftercare and technical team (Tech-Care) and regional reps who are happy to visit as and when you need them to.

You say you have just completed your facial course & have a home salon; have you asked your current customers what new treatments they'd like to experience? It may give you an indication on which machines and treatments you should prioritise - just a thought

Happy to help if further information is needed.

Tracey @ Silhouette

 

[Lilai]

Thank you very much for your responses, I got some ideas, although it is very difficult to make a choice, but I need to hear different opinions

 

[Aesthetic queen]

I'm looking at the btnano and accent led from biotheraputic
Www.biotheraputic.co.uk
Non-invasive Cosmetic Beauty Treatments | Advanced Esthetics Solutions Limited

 

[fozzyo]

I'm looking at the btnano and accent led from biotheraputic
Www.biotheraputic.co.uk
Non-invasive Cosmetic Beauty Treatments | Advanced Esthetics Solutions Limited

I had a great chat with David Suzuki at PB. The nano offers a lot more then the accent.

 

[Lilai]

Very interesting!! I visited the Biotheraputic at the show and I spoke to David about BT NANO and BT ACCENT , This is one of my short list product. Regarding Accent, I found Carlton LED light therapy that it doesn't cost much , but I am not sure if it is strong enough and has the similar effect as Accent, or is similar to the home used device, what do you think? Also, I learnt Radio Frequency is very advance and new treatment, I found Skinmate Elite at HOF Beauty do you recommend this treatment?
I really like to buy the quality product, but my fear is I spend alot to set up my salon so far but I don't have so many clients yet, but I understand because I only want to be specialist in facial I need more advance equipments.

Thank you again for all your advice, I need help to make my choice.

 

[fozzyo]

Very interesting!! I visited the Biotheraputic at the show and I spoke to David about BT NANO and BT ACCENT , This is one of my short list product. Regarding Accent, I found Carlton LED light therapy that it doesn't cost much , but I am not sure if it is strong enough and has the similar effect as Accent, or is similar to the home used device, what do you think? Also, I learnt Radio Frequency is very advance and new treatment, I found Skinmate Elite at HOF Beauty do you recommend this treatment?
I really like to buy the quality product, but my fear is I spend alot to set up my salon so far but I don't have so many clients yet, but I understand because I only want to be specialist in facial I need more advance equipments.

Thank you again for all your advice, I need help to make my choice.

The Carlton colour device is for more focused application. It also offers four colours and can be used with a variety of their machines. The only problem with the accent is where to put it ... It almost needs an additional trolley. I must admit for colour therapy I like the Carlton machine, partly for compact size. Also when doing a facial I can target specific areas. In my treatment room I have designed my lighting to use LED so I can change the colour of the room as needed ... At the push of a button the client can be under red, blue or green light and then using the Carlton device I could focus the light where needed.

I am also torn between the Carlton micro-current and the nano.

 

[Lilai]

Thank you Fozzyo. Some of LED light therapy products are very large and very expensive, I was wondering if they are more effective and they have more power for treatments. If Carlton does the same job, I would love to buy with that price. One of the Carlton rep at the show mentioned this is desig to target specific area, but she also mentioned they may launch the style that cover the whole face !! Is the any measurements to compare different light therapy machines?

Regarding the choice between micro current device, NANO may be work better in long term because of advance technology being used and its design. I noticed between September Olympia and Excel there has been a big change in technology being used in electric facial, one of those area of advancement is the size of products and more research.

 

[Lilai]

I could not survive without microcurrent, galvanic and high frequency, but Facials are 95% of my business.
I am also interested in Radio Frequency for the face.
Interestingly, I tried a Nu Skin facial and was quite impressed, although when I took a quick peak at the machine, I thought it looked very much like a home use machine?

What do you think of investment on Radio Frequency and light therapy?

 

[ukbeauty]

I am seriously interested in purchasing a Dermabrasion, Light Therapy and Radio Frequency Facial machine, but tbh a bit bemused by all the different machines that have recently come onto the market? The 3D skin-tech seems to offer quite a lot, but........?
Many many years ago, when I used to have a large salon we had a crystal dermabrasion machine by a well known supplier that was an absolute headache. Machine kept blocking and had to keep cancelling appointments, I am quite sure technology has improved, but I am quite interested in diamond dermabrasion for this reason.
I have been in the industry for many many years and have seen the different suppliers bring out various machines over the years. Some I have more faith in than others, which makes any equipment decision much harder, because I am too familiar. Quite often at the beauty shows, I smile to myself and think 'what is Fred pushing this year'!
I like the Carlton diamond dermabrasion and colour therapy - I have no affinity to the company, but in my personal opinion they are reputable, good value with solid equipment, rather than gimmicky. I have bought Electrolysis machines from them in the past. I also purchased a btgear small ultrasound unit from Biotherapeutics. My Clients absolutely love it and always request it. It was pennies compared to the £1,000's I have previously spent in the past. This is a good example of you do not necessarily need to spend a huge sum of money - just try to buy what works.
It is very hard in the beauty industry to sort through the hype/good marketing/consumer awareness/against good research, development and reputable machines that produce results. I am very fortunate to have a good facial clientelle, that trust and believe in my decisions, but currently I only work around 25 hours a week on my own, doing up to 15 facials (my treatments are quite long and intensive). I need to very carefully weigh up investment/return fairly quickly, before the equipment is replaced by something new in the market.
Just read my post and realised it is probably not much help. I will update, when I decide which equipment to buy?

 

[wonderwoman]

carlton are a great company to have a mid price range product. Compared to high end and basic range. Always look at the warrenty and if you may experience any problems.

Basics are great to get a feel for the product and you can always upgrade from them.

The higher end i would only consider paramedic machine, im not spending thousands on a basic machine x6 times the amount of a basic machine when the only thing different is the model and the label. the label is what your paying in excess thousands.

I think people are more brand focused now so they think that certain inexpensive machines wont do x y and z, however it depends on your budget and if you want a combined machine. I think you should also think about the skincare brand you wish to use and aftercare to sell to clients is important.

As someone that has used a fair few machines, basic to high end, its like "ronseal does what it says on the tin" xoxo

 

[fozzyo]

With companies like CACI you are paying for two things ... A touchscreen and a brand name. I could offer my version of their top of the range system for about a third of the price using Carlton equipment (Lift Pro and Chroma Peel). Then with some clever marketing I make my money back an awful lot quicker.

Just my view and most likely what I plan on doing. Having bought a Carlton combined Galvanic an HF machine I really do see why their products are so good.

 

[Lilai]

With companies like CACI you are paying for two things ... A touchscreen and a brand name. I could offer my version of their top of the range system for about a third of the price using Carlton equipment (Lift Pro and Chroma Peel). Then with some clever marketing I make my money back an awful lot quicker.

Just my view and most likely what I plan on doing. Having bought a Carlton combined Galvanic an HF machine I really do see why their products are so good.

How do you do this marketing? I hardly get any customers can you please advice how this is possible for homebased salon?

 

[Lilai]

Hi,
Thank you!!!! I agree I noticed this that quality and the result you can achieve with less expensive brand can be as good as, we sometimes have to pay for the brand.
Regarding Microdermabrasion, I bought Skinmate diamond peel from Hofbeauty it is very good, not expensive and is very effective, I am not particularly interested in their customer service but they are just a supplier. They have RF with the same brand if it has the same quality may worth to investigate on it. But Microcurrent is still in my list.
That would be great if you could advice when you decide on your machine. I don’t want to confuse you more but I think Derma roller is also popular but I tried to keep away from this at this time.
I have set up a therapy room at home in September after I got my diploma in skincare and microderm, but I decided to complete more electric facial in January. To be honest I don’t see so many clients, in fact I get only referrals from friends and neighbours. Because I only provide facial service I am concern to have more specialist treatments (electric facial) beside my facial skincare and microdermabrasion. If I had lots of clients it would make it easier to invest, I am not sure if this is usual to get client so slowly.
I started my salon with Priadara range but then I found Neal’s Yard and I bought some stocks. I am thinking once I finish my Priadara I use different professional brand (may be Eve Taylor or BT) and may be retail only Neals Yard for after care. Is it still professional to do that? Or I may just persevere with full Neal’s Yard brand if works well with the machine of choice.
Yet, electric facial in unavoidable

 

[jowo]

Lilai - Can I ask where you did your training for electrical facial? I booked and paid for a 3 day course with The Carlton Institute. I turned up on the day, waited around for 3/4 hour, then asked if it would be much longer before we started. The receptionist told us that the trainer was not yet there but would ring her. Upon doing so, we were told that the course was not running and she had informed Carlton Ins of this 2 weeks previously. I had booked 3 days holiday from work to do the course as had another lady. We had no choice but to go home. We were told we could have a refund and 22p per mile petrol (hehe, we didnt go on push bikes). So 3 days and lots of fuel wasted.

I was really keen to do the course and would like to do it in the midlands area. I think that you are right, non surgical face lifts are the way forward

 

[fozzyo]

Penny Turvey in Solihull does excellent vale one to one training. Either at hers or your place. I did my Galvanic & HF with her- BABTAC accreditted.

 

[Lilai]

Hi jowo,

I did my microdermabrasion course with "the beauty academy", but the electric facial courses are comenced in Birmingham and London and they were ok. I took full electric facial with Carlton institute, the trainer Amy was good but she has left them now. I had to travel from Cambridge to London and booked days off from work, but perhaps I was lucky that they didn't cancel for those days. I can imaging how you were disappointed with them Sorry I hope i could help :/