Gelish shrinking

[Natalia Edwards]

I trained with Nail Harmony in February so am quite new to the product but am finding that I am having to flash cure most colours as they shrink I am also having to do 3 coats and 4 on black shadow! I have used shellac in the past and found that I never got shrinkage. Any advice? I'm also finding that as it shrinks at the free edge I end up putting too much product near the edge so sometimes end up with a bulb end. Any advise would be fab.

 

[xXjazXx]

If it's just the free edge that's shrinking it's due to prep, Make sure nail prep is 100% perfect, cleansing the nail plate really well and you are getting the ph bond right to the tip of the nail, also being careful when dry brushing the nail make sure the foundation is really covering the tip . Is the room cold you're working in? I've found a couple of colours that shrink all round, but flash curing as you go, doing a couple of nails at a time in the first colour coat prevents this x

 

[xXjazXx]

Also black shadow isn't their best formula[emoji17] I do find that needs lots of coats

 

[LuxeBeauty]

I find black shadow a pain. It does shrink and needs at least 3 coats. Thank goodness I don't use it too often [emoji5]️

 

[Natalia Edwards]

Thanks ladies, I am really careful when I do the foundation making sure that I scrub it in and go straight to the free edge. I then cure and dry brush but still seem to get shrinkage. The black shadow is a pain! I'm hoping that I don't use it much. Also whilst I'm on, I used Ella of a girl yesterday and with my nails being long my natural nail length shows through after 3 coats, should I have done another?

 

[cheekychick]

Could you possibly be using too much foundation?
Sometimes if the foundation coat is painted/scrubbed in and is a little too thick this can cause shrinkage.
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[Natalia Edwards]

I don't think so I'm quite careful with the foundation so make sure it's thin

 

[Natalia Edwards]

How thin should it be though? I wipe the brush loads so that I scrub it in as thin as I can

 

[Belgiumnails]

I trained with Nail Harmony in February so am quite new to the product but am finding that I am having to flash cure most colours as they shrink I am also having to do 3 coats and 4 on black shadow! I have used shellac in the past and found that I never got shrinkage. Any advice? I'm also finding that as it shrinks at the free edge I end up putting too much product near the edge so sometimes end up with a bulb end. Any advise would be fab.

Hi Natalia , i work with Harmony Gelish for like 4years and in the begining i had the same problems . It was just because i used to much product on the nails. And i used the first months an uv lamp but i had changed real quickly to a 18g led light from Harmony. I don't have any shrinking problems any more. And yes some colours need like 4-5 thin layers to get an even coverage on the nails. But i have clients who can keep their nails 9weeks without chipping. When you aply and cured the foundation layer do you cleanse it ? Or can you describe the steps you take until the shrinking starts ?

 

[Natalia Edwards]

Hi thanks for you reply. I try and be as thin as I can with each layer. I do find that Gelish requires more layers than any other gel that I've used. When I do my foundation I scrub it in as thin as I can, cure then dry wipe. I then start with the colour layers and as soon as I apply it shrinks from the tip and the sides so I have to flash cure, I find that no matter how many times I cap it pulls away, I then end up with too much product best the end so it bulbs slightly. I have the 5 finger Gelish lamp so it shouldn't be the lamp that I'm using.

 

[Belgiumnails]

Hi thanks for you reply. I try and be as thin as I can with each layer. I do find that Gelish requires more layers than any other gel that I've used. When I do my foundation I scrub it in as thin as I can, cure then dry wipe. I then start with the colour layers and as soon as I apply it shrinks from the tip and the sides so I have to flash cure, I find that no matter how many times I cap it pulls away, I then end up with too much product best the end so it bulbs slightly. I have the 5 finger Gelish lamp so it shouldn't be the lamp that I'm using.

I had done 2 trainings with harmony but with different nail techs . And i did get the advice after i bufferd my nails , should first use the nail scrub fresh from cnd creative and then also the ph bond after that a thin layer foundation cure it for like 30 s after that wipe off the sticky layer with the blue cleanser and than the layers of colour until it isn't see trough anymore and at least top it off maybe that can give you some hope . Because it's not that cheap all those products

 

[cheekychick]

I had done 2 trainings with harmony but with different nail techs . And i did get the advice after i bufferd my nails , should first use the nail scrub fresh from cnd creative and then also the ph bond after that a thin layer foundation cure it for like 30 s after that wipe off the sticky layer with the blue cleanser and than the layers of colour until it isn't see trough anymore and at least top it off maybe that can give you some hope . Because it's not that cheap all those products

What you have described isn't the way we are trained in the UK.
I don't know why a harmony educator would tell you to use a CND product for prep when that is what Gelish cleanse is designed for?

I also wouldn't recommend cleansing between cured coats.
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[Belgiumnails]

What you have described isn't the way we are trained in the UK.
I don't know why a harmony educator would tell you to use a CND product for prep when that is what Gelish cleanse is designed for?

I also wouldn't recommend cleansing between cured coats.
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I only can tell what they told me and my nails last like for 9 weeks. The nail tech uses a few brands in her store and combinate the things she thinks that are the best

 

[cheekychick]

I only can tell what they told me and my nails last like for 9 weeks. The nail tech uses a few brands in her store and combinate the things she thinks that are the best

So the course wasn't actually run by nail harmony then?

 

[Natalia Edwards]

Hi I was never advised to cleanse the nail after the foundation layer? I was told to dry brush otherwise this will take the sticky later away for the colour to stick to?

 

[cheekychick]

Hi I was never advised to cleanse the nail after the foundation layer? I was told to dry brush otherwise this will take the sticky later away for the colour to stick to?

You are correct.
It isn't advised to cleanse the foundation or the colour between coats. x

 

[lianne114]

What you have described isn't the way we are trained in the UK.
I don't know why a harmony educator would tell you to use a CND product for prep when that is what Gelish cleanse is designed for?

I also wouldn't recommend cleansing between cured coats.
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Just thinking the same. My old salon did red 10 training and we were certainly not told to wipe between coats.