Jessica .... After Acrylics kit ??

[Chameleon]

Please do not get me started on this one:lol:...i have to say this has been niggling at me for a VERY long time,and i too have seen this sort of advertising....

I have come across many nail techs who have said "let your nails breath for a while","gel is kinder to the nail","acrylics are damaging",and then i try to educate them the opposite and to try and open thier mind as to why they think this...

I am jessica trained,it was the first company i trained with after college,and i was told all this nonsense,sorry all die hard jessica fans but it REALLY:irked: ME OFF!..i even had quite a dispute about this with someone of seniority,and asked them when the last time they did a nail refresher training and to invest in some good books,such as Doug Schoon...:green:

 

[Nailsinlondon1]

I have seen this kit too and thought yep marketing, so I made up my own kit....
CND Solar Oil, CND Toughen Up and Speedy Top Coat all in a nice little Organza bag..with a little instruction note included..... I call it the "back to natural kit". It sells and it works.......

My motto is: If they can do it and make money so can I!!!!!

 

[Bagpuss]

I have seen this kit too and thought yep marketing, so I made up my own kit....
CND Solar Oil, CND Toughen Up and Speedy Top Coat all in a nice little Organza bag..with a little instruction note included..... I call it the "back to natural kit". It sells and it works.......

My motto is: If they can do it and make money so can I!!!!!

But you do it with style and an industry friendly title......:hug:

 

[Nailsinlondon1]

Yep I do it differently and do not scaremonger either. I explain why there could be damage to the natural nail and the number one cause is still: Picking them off!!!!.....

My clients trust me and believe me..... We will never rid the industry of companies using bad wording to sell their wares, but we can educate the people we deal with, its a bit like fighting a fire, not head on but attacking it from a different angle.....dont chase the words, meet them head on..... we have the education, so lets use it!!!!!!!!

The power of the word can be just as powerful as the pen!!!!

 

[mely-bely]

I think it has to born in mind that the reason this product is on the market & sells is precisely because there is a need for it. Agreed that much of the damage comes from poor practice, but there are a significant number of people, who for whatever reason, end up with wafer thin nails after years of having acrylics, and they seek out a product to rectify it. I have had many client's who have used the product after having had problems post-acrylic nails, and have found it helped immensely.

Out of interest, the wording on the packaging & training manual is "can cause" not "does cause".

I have to disagree - I have worn l&p for 15 years and my nails are in better shape than they were before I started with enhancements. People forget after several years how thin their nails were to begin with - hence the whole point of enhancements. Blaming the product is a crap way of selling product.

 

[mercedes69]

Wow an amazing thread....
I went from agree...disagree...agree....well you get the picture....

I thought Martin had a great point to make....and until that point I was like WHHAAATTT

Ethics sometimes just don't come into the business world....but I think Ruth's idea with her own kit is terrific.... one worth pinching if that's ok...:lol:

* I ruined my own nails from 'enhancements'. Being a nail biter I would nibble, pick and chew off my enhancements. It has taken well over a year to get them back to normal....
If I was just a client....I'm afraid I would be one of the 'acrylic ruins your nails' brigade....and perhaps seek to purchase one of these kits....the fact I did it to myself wouldn't have entered my head....well it might have done but I would have denied it....
It's only due to my training ( and common sense ) that I know differently....but many folks out there don't have the training or common sense....and there is your market for 'after acrylic' kits.

 

[Jolicatellas]

I have to disagree - I have worn l&p for 15 years and my nails are in better shape than they were before I started with enhancements. People forget after several years how thin their nails were to begin with - hence the whole point of enhancements. Blaming the product is a crap way of selling product.

Can I ask a question mely-bely? How do you know that your nails are in better shape when you have been wearing l&p for 15 years? Do you mean you've taken your enhancements off to find your nails had improved?
Sorry, it's probably logical, but I just want to clarify...

 

[Beautyaddict]

I don't know, I've seen a lot of really badly damaged nails of acrylic wearers. I suppose it depends on how careful the therapist who applies them is, but in my experience, nails are left thin, easily broken and very sensitive after soaking acrylics off, I recently saw one client who had a nice green bacterial infection growing beteen the natural and acrylic nail!


Maybe it is down to the fact that there are lots of techs out there not properly applying/removing acrylics, or advising homecare properly. But from where I see it, Jessica is just giving clients the option to have natural nails, even if they've had a really bad experience with Acrylics. I know of so many people who have rushed into acrylics for instant results, only to regret it. They also do a very similar Peeling Nail Kit. Sorry all of the acrylic devotees out there, but I am 100% devoted to natural.

 

[geeg]

Now everyone just wait a minute and be sensible!

There is absolutely no doubt at all that the wearing of nail enhancements does on removal (even if you are the best technician in the whole wide world) leave the natural nail temporarily in a more porous and more brittle state. Same way my hair is affected by bleach. Therefore I need to buy and use the products that restore the moisture/oil balance in my hair (which takes a week or two).

We always supply our clients with the products to restore the moisture/oil balance in the nail plate which will also take a couple of weeks. Un-enhanced nails need after care to prevent splitting and breaking and I see nothing wrong in admitting this to clients who should be made aware just as I am aware that my hair is affected by bleach.

Being aware that my hair is affected by chemicals does not stop me having my hair coloured and being made aware that my nails will be affected in the same way would not stop me having my nails enhanced either.

So whether chemically affected or outright damaged by a bad client or a bad technician I certainly see a need to give the right aftercare advice and the products needed to support that advice so clients can restore their nails to their original state of flexibility and strength.

 

[tracey louise]

great explaination gigi.
ive actually used the mavala one (years ago) before i trained.after going to a salon for about a year my nails werent that good once they were removed which was done professionally i used it and it did work for my nails in a couple of weeks and if i needed to i would use it again although i dont always agree with there wording.x

 

[geeg]

great explaination gigi.
ive actually used the mavala one (years ago) before i trained.after going to a salon for about a year my nails werent that good once they were removed which was done professionally i used it and it did work for my nails in a couple of weeks and if i needed to i would use it again although i dont always agree with there wording.x

Well I think it is more the wording that does get up people's noses.

I have to say that I have all the after care any client needs provided by my product supplier and wouldn't be tempted to use or recommend anything else but people will buy where they see something that suits their needs. I think it is not a bad thing that Jessica is supplying something but I prefer natural products and oils myself and to me it is part of the removal service to supply them.