My first not to be client ! (waxing)

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Maybe this just demonstrates certain areas of my life a little too well, but I don't see why it should be an issue. Tbh, if he's kept chaste by his gf who is probably (from the sounds of it), his Domme/Mistress, he would not act out of line at all, for fear of punishment or disappointing/displeasing his Mistress.

It's an issue because it's inappropriate to share it with someone who has not expressed comfort in this area. It is not at all fair to make the therapist (or anyone else for that matter) uncomfortable by discussing / demonstrating sexual stuff that for many people is outside of normal.

If the therapist was advertisig her services in Domme Monthly, fair enough, but she wasn't! She is an innocent therapist just trying to do her job, not asking to be exposed to this kind of thing.

From your post, I am not sure you will understand :rolleyes:
 
Maybe this just demonstrates certain areas of my life a little too well, but I don't see why it should be an issue. Tbh, if he's kept chaste by his gf who is probably (from the sounds of it), his Domme/Mistress, he would not act out of line at all, for fear of punishment or disappointing/displeasing his Mistress.


lol, did you just register to give us your fetish point of view? I couldn't care less why they doing it, I call them sick people, should go and see GP not a professional waxer.
These kind of people are not genuine clients, full stop.
 
Kim, I had the training with you 5th May, remember? I haven't even started yet and this happened.
But I am determined to be a professional waxer and I will not let this incident get to me :)
Of course I remember Isabela!!!! I also remember speaking to you at great length about this sort of thing and how to deal with it. Don't tolerate it at all.

If you get any pervs, you have to stop them in their tracks and end the conversation. Don't feel embarrassed, just put the phone down on them. xxx
 
Maybe this just demonstrates certain areas of my life a little too well, but I don't see why it should be an issue. Tbh, if he's kept chaste by his gf who is probably (from the sounds of it), his Domme/Mistress, he would not act out of line at all, for fear of punishment or disappointing/displeasing his Mistress.
I don't think that you quite understand the point. Waxing is not a sexual service, so what a couple do in the privacy of their own home should not be brought into the salon. Simple as!

I doubt she'd call up the bank and ask if her husband can make a withdrawal (no pun intended) wearing nipple clamps and a snorkel.
 
Kim you do make me laugh....heheheh
 
lol, did you just register to give us your fetish point of view? I couldn't care less why they doing it, I call them sick people, should go and see GP not a professional waxer.
These kind of people are not genuine clients, full stop.

I would say if they wish to get waxed, they are genuine?
And "lol" no I didn't. I came here to see if I could gain informayion in regard to which courses worked best for people getting into beauty, nails etc. As "we fetish people" don't call you sick for your kinks, could you try to open your mind a little? No...? Shame.

It's an issue because it's inappropriate to share it with someone who has not expressed comfort in this area. It is not at all fair to make the therapist (or anyone else for that matter) uncomfortable by discussing / demonstrating sexual stuff that for many people is outside of normal.

If the therapist was advertisig her services in Domme Monthly, fair enough, but she wasn't! She is an innocent therapist just trying to do her job, not asking to be exposed to this kind of thing.

From your post, I am not sure you will understand :rolleyes:

Are you always that offensive and unwelcoming to newcomers to the forum? That seems a shame, it seems like a wonderful resource here. I am in two minds about "sharing" this information - on the one hand I agree it's a bit much to put forth to a vanilla member of staff in a place you wish to visit as a customer. However there is also the side that it would have likely been a lot more of an issue had he turned up wearing it with no warning.

An efficient compromise could surely have been his Mistress allowing him to remove it prior to the appointment, and put it back on once they'd left though, I'd think. Even for someone in full time chastity, it seems logical.

I was not, and am not rude to you, so please try to refrain from being rude to me. Thank you.

I don't think that you quite understand the point. Waxing is not a sexual service, so what a couple do in the privacy of their own home should not be brought into the salon. Simple as!

I doubt she'd call up the bank and ask if her husband can make a withdrawal (no pun intended) wearing nipple clamps and a snorkel.

1. Yes, I think I do understand.
2. Waxing is indeed not a sexual service. But I personally do not feel they were asking for such a service, merely pointing out that he would arrive in something the technician may feel uncomfortable with. A common misconception is that us "sickos" have to enlist the vanilla. We don't. There are enough of us to have fun on our own, honest! ;)
3. Is waxing done fully clothed then? Cause last time I checked, exposure of the requisite body parts is fairly essential! ;) You don't have to drop 'em in a bank, so I'm not convinced your metaphor stands. It might be more appropriate to suggest nipple clamps would be bad form in a public swimming pool, which I'd agree with - they would be. ;)

Chances of careful, reasoned consideration? Any? :grr:
 
Alexinia

What is vanilla ?
 
Ah sorry Fena, vanilla means 'non-kinky' ;)
 
3. Is waxing done fully clothed then? Cause last time I checked, exposure of the requisite body parts is fairly essential! ;) You don't have to drop 'em in a bank, so I'm not convinced your metaphor stands. It might be more appropriate to suggest nipple clamps would be bad form in a public swimming pool, which I'd agree with - they would be. ;)
Well I have to say I'd be more than abit uncomfortable if someone came into a hairdressers and had to have their "gag" or "muzzle" taken off by their master or whatever before they got their hair done!:eek: It just wouldn't be done, so I dont see how this is any different.
I dont see why the woman just couldnt have taken off the thing before her fella went in to get waxed, and then put it on when they got home? I suppose they prob got a kick out of letting her know all this stuff. Whatever people want to do in private is their own business, they dont need to go round shoving it into other peoples faces (literally!):D
What is vanilla ?
I think it might be refering to people who arent into or know anythin bout this stuff? Not 100% sure!
 
alexinia, i doubt anyone really cares what people get up to in their private lives but this woman crossed the line when she asked the therapist if her boyfriend could wear fetish underwear to his appointment... i fail to see how anyone could find this sort of behaviour appropriate and you can hardly class someone as "vanilla" if they're not be ok with it... for the record, i'm mint choccy chip or cherry garcia :D
 
Yeah, like I say Emo, I'd have thought it could surely be an acceptable bit of logic to take it off prior to the appt, then put back on after? They could have had a kink for public humiliation I'm thinking (one or both of them) - but if so, they really need to learn to exercise that particular kink with willing others!

It's certainly given me food for thought though - as I'm already exploring the market for more alternative-girl friendly salons... maybe theres a market to be had within that particular facet of the alt scene - TS/CD people, forced feminisation stuff too... hmm.. *contemplates*.
 
alexinia, i doubt anyone really cares what people get up to in their private lives but this woman crossed the line when she asked the therapist if her boyfriend could wear fetish underwear to his appointment... i fail to see how anyone could find this sort of behaviour appropriate and you can hardly class someone as "vanilla" if they're not be ok with it... for the record, i'm mint choccy chip or cherry garcia :D

Don't take Vanilla as a pejorative term; it really isn't. What I mean by that is nothing more than 'she's hardly advertised as fet-appropriate'. ;)

Thing is though, I don't deny she should have thought harder - hell, it's not a question I'd have asked - but I do think it's worth bearing in mind that for some, the lifestyle choice is 24/7 - wearing such devices for weeks or months at a time. (Which could also be part of the reason she's considered waxing - as it'd mean much slower regrowth than shaving).

Seeing as it was going to have to be removed for the waxing to take place though, I don't think it's too much to ask for them to do the removal/replacing outside of the salon environment!

Thing is though, 'kinky' people have come in for a hell of a lot of stick in this thread. I think it saddens me that some people would still refer to it as being akin to mental illness.. Meh, I guess it's easy to forget what the bulk of society think...
 
Alexinia- you are well out of line on this site.
We ARE professionals discussing waxing,as a business.
 
Whilst I agree with Mrs O that we're discussing waxing as a business, I do think it's useful to discuss how to deal with such potentially tricky situations as has been described.
We are professionals so it's up to us to behave in a professional manner so as not to mislead the enquirer. I've had several unusual (ahem) requests and I deal with them calmly, assertively and without emotion. I'm fairly sure that what they're hoping for is a reaction from me; they don't get one!
I have several "kinky" (I don't like that word, by the way - everyone's map of the world is different, and just because it's different doesn't mean it's wrong!) clients. One wears so much metalwork he clanks when he walks, and we spend a good 6 or 7 minutes removing it so I can get to work; another wears women's underwear, and another wears high heels with his slick suit. I deal with these idiosyncracies by not reacting to them.
I've had people ring and ask if their partner can watch and I politely tell them I operate a closed door policy so I'm afraid that won't be possible.
I think a lot of this can be diffused by the way that you speak/behave/react to the client. Be polite, be professional, stay calm. If someone asks you for something you're not comfortable with, tell them just that.
Have some practice lines handy - keep them by the phone if necessary, hell, even do some role play with your other half so you're not phased by it when a client calls/emails.

Here are some I've used in the past:

"I'm sorry - I'm not comfortable with this request, could I ask that you look for somewhere more specialist in this field?"
"I'm sorry, my insurance company does not cover this type of request"
"This is purely a waxing service, not a sexual one. I'm not willing to compromise on this"
"Please do not offend me by asking for this"
"Spectators are not allowed; I operate a closed door policy"

Even the most hard-bitten, cynical, world-weary of us can be caught off guard; arm yourself with some useful tools and you'll soon get used to dealing with life's "interesting" individuals!
 
Whilst I agree with Mrs O that we're discussing waxing as a business, I do think it's useful to discuss how to deal with such potentially tricky situations as has been described.
We are professionals so it's up to us to behave in a professional manner so as not to mislead the enquirer. I've had several unusual (ahem) requests and I deal with them calmly, assertively and without emotion. I'm fairly sure that what they're hoping for is a reaction from me; they don't get one!
I have several "kinky" (I don't like that word, by the way - everyone's map of the world is different, and just because it's different doesn't mean it's wrong!) clients. One wears so much metalwork he clanks when he walks, and we spend a good 6 or 7 minutes removing it so I can get to work; another wears women's underwear, and another wears high heels with his slick suit. I deal with these idiosyncracies by not reacting to them.
I've had people ring and ask if their partner can watch and I politely tell them I operate a closed door policy so I'm afraid that won't be possible.
I think a lot of this can be diffused by the way that you speak/behave/react to the client. Be polite, be professional, stay calm. If someone asks you for something you're not comfortable with, tell them just that.
Have some practice lines handy - keep them by the phone if necessary, hell, even do some role play with your other half so you're not phased by it when a client calls/emails.

Here are some I've used in the past:

"I'm sorry - I'm not comfortable with this request, could I ask that you look for somewhere more specialist in this field?"
"I'm sorry, my insurance company does not cover this type of request"
"This is purely a waxing service, not a sexual one. I'm not willing to compromise on this"
"Please do not offend me by asking for this"
"Spectators are not allowed; I operate a closed door policy"

Even the most hard-bitten, cynical, world-weary of us can be caught off guard; arm yourself with some useful tools and you'll soon get used to dealing with life's "interesting" individuals!

I agree but think that with Lynne's good advice we can close this thread before it is used as a platform for this topic. Thanks all. I guess I've learned something from it ... even if it is only that vanilla is not just a pod or a flavour!! :rolleyes:
 
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