Shocked!

[EdenHair]

I'm just having a little vent I suppose!
I used to be blonde and stupidly went dark while pregnant thinking it would be easier to manage it wasn't as I'm so grey 😔
Anyway I'm blaming that on baby brain. I've decided to go back to blonde as I can get away with 8-10 weeks before my roots need doing.

I went to a salon today to get a strand test. Went away and rang them a few hours later this is what the stylist told me: the test piece has lifted just a few shades not blonde but a nice shade.... Ok fine wasn't expecting it to ping straight to blonde I know it's going to be a gradual thing

She then says: we used bleach and 40vol peroxide 😳😳😳😳
and left it on for 40mins
I was speechless she knew I'm a hairdresser I told her during consultation. I asked her about the condition she said oh it was fine!!! This is bearing in mind that I will have to have foils pulled through a few times after to get it blonde! I made an excuse and said I'd ring back.
I then went into my treatment room took a test piece of hair and put it in a foil with 12% and bleach left it for 40 mins I also did another piece with bleach and 3% and left it for 1hr 20mins

The 12% sample all the hair snapped when I stretched it after rinsing just as I suspected
The 3% sample gave the same colour result and the hair was perfectly fine I've always been taught lower and slower when it comes to bleaching the hair.
I'm just really upset that had I not been trained in hair I would've gone there and had my hair ruined by this so called professional!! 😡
What scares me is that there are people going there that aren't trained hairdressers and don't realise what's gonna happen to their hair! I just found the whole thing very upsetting and needed a vent! Sorry it was such a long post xxxxx

 

[stewie16]

I seriously seriously don't understand how some hairdressers have got jobs these days. I know a few who are extremely good and are out of work.
I went past a salon near me and they were using a cap for long hair highlights and slapping bleach on. I would never use a cap for long hair or a graduated bob. Use some bloody foils for once!

 

[EdenHair]

I seriously seriously don't understand how some hairdressers have got jobs these days. I know a few who are extremely good and are out of work.
I went past a salon near me and they were using a cap for long hair highlights and slapping bleach on. I would never use a cap for long hair or a graduated bob. Use some bloody foils for once!

They offer that on their price list!
Majorly majorly shocked I've now gotta find a hairdresser that will do it properly
It's times like this I wish I could do my own hair 😔

 

[ColourBoy]

tbh I don't think 12% is ALWAYS that bad. before I'd been in hairdressing for a while I did a friends hair who was down to her back a full head of foils because she had build up and wanted to be blonde, the hair after was fine, and I repeated it 6 weeks later with 12% again trying to get what I missed the first time, then I did a whole head foils of 6% taking it through to the ends. Her hair is obviously dryer but she's had no breakage or stretchiness that she didn't already have before. I've learnt since then that's not the way to do it, and slow and steady is better but I think people are more scared of 12% then they should be!

 

[EdenHair]

tbh I don't think 12% is ALWAYS that bad. before I'd been in hairdressing for a while I did a friends hair who was down to her back a full head of foils because she had build up and wanted to be blonde, the hair after was fine, and I repeated it 6 weeks later with 12% again trying to get what I missed the first time, then I did a whole head foils of 6% taking it through to the ends. Her hair is obviously dryer but she's had no breakage or stretchiness that she didn't already have before. I've learnt since then that's not the way to do it, and slow and steady is better but I think people are more scared of 12% then they should be!

I'd only ever use it with a high lift
There's no need to use it with bleach if you can get the same result with lower less damaging vol peroxide I'd rather it took longer and damaged less than the other way round but everyone is entitled to their opinion I'm just going off how I felt about what happened with me

 

[EdenHair]

Cont... And how I was trained

 

[stewie16]

tbh I don't think 12% is ALWAYS that bad. before I'd been in hairdressing for a while I did a friends hair who was down to her back a full head of foils because she had build up and wanted to be blonde, the hair after was fine, and I repeated it 6 weeks later with 12% again trying to get what I missed the first time, then I did a whole head foils of 6% taking it through to the ends. Her hair is obviously dryer but she's had no breakage or stretchiness that she didn't already have before. I've learnt since then that's not the way to do it, and slow and steady is better but I think people are more scared of 12% then they should be!

I would only use 12% with a highlight. I wouldn't use it with bleach as bleach doesn't stop working.

 

[stewie16]

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They offer that on their price list!
Majorly majorly shocked I've now gotta find a hairdresser that will do it properly
It's times like this I wish I could do my own hair 😔

Go find somewhere else it's took me ages to find a decent hairdresser and I will always stick with her. I never let anybody cut my hair at work.

 

[EdenHair]

Go find somewhere else it's took me ages to find a decent hairdresser and I will always stick with her. I never let anybody cut my hair at work.

I had a lovely hairdresser but he decided to pursue a career in musical theatre the selfish b#%€$*< &#128514; I'm only kidding I admire him for following his dreams
Luckily I've contacted a distant family member that's qualified in hair and very good I shoulda just gone to her first don't even know why I didn't
She was horrified when I told her

 

[ColourGirly]

Some manufacturers still recommend 40vol depending on your technique. Personally I never go above 20vol, but they actually aren't doing anything wrong.

 

[adamlea87]

I only really use 40 for balayage, but even then not too often x

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[Headz & Bedz]

Such horror at "cap hi-lights" ......really ???
If it is done properly it cause less damage as foil, benefits being , you can apply what ever hi lift product to the hair all at the same time , see exactly what is going on at all times , evenly processes ....oh n no overlap of colour.....removal ( when done properly) is easy and should cause no damage at all !!!
Not that I recommend 40% , at least it can be safely monitored at all time by this method???come on folk s , why do you think this method was so successful for so long ....


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[stewie16]

Such horror at "cap hi-lights" ......really ???
If it is done properly it cause less damage as foil, benefits being , you can apply what ever hi lift product to the hair all at the same time , see exactly what is going on at all times , evenly processes ....oh n no overlap of colour.....removal ( when done properly) is easy and should cause no damage at all !!!
Not that I recommend 40% , at least it can be safely monitored at all time by this method???come on folk s , why do you think this method was so successful for so long ....


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What you on about! such horror? Me personally I wouldn't use a cap for long hair. They were slapping bleach that was already bleached. I've always used cap for short hair not long hair.

 

[AcidPerm]

Cap highlights = Lack of good technique.

 

[Nearlyme]

We still have spiral perms on our price list but only do 1 a year. Or dry trims- I probably do 2 a week- I don't like doing it but there is a market.

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[Jinnyjinbob]

A very 'old school' colleague of mine still thinks it's acceptable to do cap highlights using 60VOL sometimes even using heat as well. But this is fine apparently because it's not touching the scalp.
I am appalled obviously.

 

[ColourGirly]

I've never done cap highlights in my life.

Personally i feel there's no precision to it like with foil. With foils you work with the clients head shape, growth patterns. You can apply two or three colours, you can customise the weaves.

Each to there own, but the poster above pointed out benefits of working cleanly, how many stylist actually do that? Most people I know who use cap still use 60vol under heat an slap it on, overlap, etc.

 

[HairByCharlotte]

Nor have I ever done cap highlights and I never will

 

[mollie1985]

When I first started I used poly caps (never used rubber cap) but I then started using meshes more and slowly but surely changed clients to that and now I used foils but I have one lady who I have done for nearly 10 years with shoulder length hair and she still to this day gets cap highlights, iv tried converting her but there's no chance shel change, she obviously know if she wanted more than one colour then she would need to, but I do agree that you don't have to use caps nowadays but I also agree that if the service is provided properly there is no damage to the hair xx

 

[stewie16]

Nothing wrong using a cap on short hair but long hair no way!