White Tip Problems.

[Charlene]

Hi all! Just regarding pink and whites, i have been taught to do pink & whites and am looking to try using white tips instead as clients requst such a sharp smile line. I know white tips are supposed to be easier to put on but harder to maintain. But in my experiences the white tips are hard to put on in order to achieve a nice looking result. In order to get a couple of wears out of them you need to apply the tip a little bit lower in order which looks silly. Even in the event that you dont want to place the tip lower, you kind of have to as clients tend to have short nails and u need a thin strip to adhere the tips to the nail & you need to file the natural nail down so it cannot be seen underneath. Does anyone who used white tips have solutions to this? Also using white tips i find the sides of the nail will look funny if the white tip hangs over just a tad it cannot easily be fixed by filing as this will reck the smile line. Any suggestions??? Thanks Charlene

 

[Bagpuss]

Hiya...i really don't have a problem with white tips...but only a select few can wear them and they look any good...they have to be used on someone with a long nail bed, Otherwise they just look odd IMO. I would say that as YOU are the nail technician you should advise what will look best...and if thats not a white tip then you should tell them that. I would stick with your pink and white l&p for the most and then you wont have these problems with white tips. Just tell them that a crisp smile line is still achievable with white l&p..not just white tips. Stick to what you know hun...xxx

 

[Fingertips ND]

I was a fan of white tips when I started out as I wasn't taught P&W at college!

If I were you I would stick to P&W and perfect your smile line.

I would give anything to be able to sculpt/tip with p&w and not use white tips but until i'm good enough I don't have a choice!

 

[NoticeableNails]

Well said Angie.
x

 

[twinkletoes910]

if you file evenly (if you put the tip on evenly) you should be able to even out the over hang on the sides. but if its hanging over the sides, is it the correct size for the nail?? if the client had long nails, i wouldn't put tips on them at all, i'd go for my white powder... but if you wanted to use tips, i'd shape the nail, but not whack it down. are you using a well-less tip?

if you can't get a perfect smile with the tips, i'd try to fix it with a tad of white powder (i'm refering to tucking some in the sides to make them even) but i'm not sure if it'd match that perfectly when you were finished.... def. not saying that this would work... but just a suggestion ya know?

have you ever tried the reverse fill application? i've done this once on myself, smiles looked wonderful, do you use an efile?

work on those smile lines!!! it'll be better (& easier)for you in the long run

 

[Lellipop]

I have one opinion on white tips............ Bin them lol

 

[geeg]

I agree with most of the above. Great answer form Angie!!

If you can't get the crisp clarity you want with your white powder and Liquid, then this is the area you need to perfect.

A good teacher should be able to show you how in a heart beat!

 

[izzidoll]

I have one opinion on white tips............ Bin them lol

Awe come on Lellipop....SAY WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN!!!

short, sharp, and to the point I love it..........

 

[Lellipop]

Its just me Izzy I hate white tips with a passion as you can tell.

 

[nemotail]

I think white tips have a place ~ I have used twice recently on ladies who for work reasons cant wear enhancements but wanted 'nails' to go to a wedding. They are quicker and can give a lovely result if the person has suitable nail beds. I only use them for this purpose and occassionally on my self if I am being lazy.

I dont understand what the purpose of using them on a client who wants to maintain their nails would be ~ how on earth would you infill? Defeats the purpose of using white tips in the first place if you have to create your own smile line when infilling.

 

[Charlene]

Thank you everyone for your help. Just a couple of questions what is IMO, sorry im still not familiar with some of the terms. Also no im not familiar with the reverse application! What is this? Im not using an e-file, just by hand. And im currently trying out using tips with and without wells - does this matter? Im finding ones without wells to be betta as you have a choice where to adhere them to the nail so they are not too low. Do people file the clients right down so they are not shown underneath? I was taught to do this - but just finding it difficult when applying tips as smile lines are too low. Thanks for everyones suggestions. All this being said im definitely going to get stuck back into creating my smile lines using l&p. Thanks Charlene.

 

[Jeni Giles]

White tips have a place, and they can be helpful, IF you pre tailor them, or buy well less tip (don't like those at all my self Ugh! the natural nail cant be snug up against the well and if you have a nail picker they will have their nails picked off from the free edge backward)

With a pre tailored white tip you can use the "pre formed" smile line to perfect your technique and get used to creating or visualising the finished product. Tailor your tip by filing the well down so that it isn't straight across and covering half the nail plate thin the tip out a little with an abrasive adhere it and then apply your white right over the white tip. This technique works well for my students. Usually one or two sets done this way and they are ready to bust out the forms!

There is a great tutorial on here Super Sonic Sculpting take a peek at that, it may give you some tricks to turn out a beautiful smile!!!

 

[Charlene]

Thanks for all your help Jeni. You answered my questioned as I was concerned of how I could use the white tip as guide if I still thought they were too low on the nail. But from what I understand from your post I can tailor a tip with or without a well even if it is already pre-tailored. I havnt done much tailoring though - i presume its just a matter of holding you file at a slight angle? I wasnt shown at my course So you thin the tip out with an abrasive before adhereing to the natural nail? Thanks for all the advice. I will check out the tutorial.

 

[Sassy Hassy]

I also hate white tips, there's only about a two week window when they look good. But some of my clients prefer them to pink and whites, don't ask me why they just do! I consult me client about it - do they want the white really low so they look really too white and pretty naff (well I don't actualy say the word naff but that's what they look like) but they have more time for the tip to grow out. Or would they like me to cut out some of the well so that it looks more natural, but they will need replacing more often.

O don't think I have ever done a new set with French tips that have looked good - but what the client wants, the client gets ... well some of the time!