Bluesky chemical burn

[willowrose]

...for the record, China does not have widespread poverty.

Levels are steadily falling. But one of the ways China has massively decreased poverty is redefining what qualifies! China classifies extreme poverty as earning under $1 a day in 2014. The World Bank defined it as $1.25 a day in 2005. In 2014 leading economists agreed that for the “absolute minimum standard of living” you need to earn $1.51 a day.

In 2014:

An estimated 82 million Chinese lived on less than $1 a day.

An estimated 200 million earned less than $1.25 a day

An estimated 400 million, or 30% of the population, earned under $1.51 a day.

In mid 2015 the World Bank revised the figure to $1.90 a day but data is not yet available to reflect this change.

The article at the bottom also talks about poverty causing mass child abandonment. Guangzhou, location of bluesky & rnk factories, opened its first baby hatch in 2014 so that parents could safely abandon their children. 262 were abandoned in 2 months. The hatch had to close as the orphanage reached capacity.

As for the other standards, I think we'd have to admit that segments of both of our own countries meet many of those standards.

Whilst our countries are not without flaws suggesting parallels between them & China is absurd.

China executes more people than the rest of the world combined, has 10+ million undocumented children, state enforced abortions & sterilisation, suppression of religion & expression, enforced disappearances, child labour, black jails, widespread poverty & extreme media censorship.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/66c2df68-2d35-11e4-aca0-00144feabdc0.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/china-more-82-million-people-live-below-poverty-line-1470313
very interesting: https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/exhibition/ai-weiwei-360

 

[NancySyd]

Levels are steadily falling. But one of the ways China has massively decreased poverty is redefining what qualifies! China classifies extreme poverty as earning under $1 a day in 2014. The World Bank defined it as $1.25 a day in 2005. In 2014 leading economists agreed that for the “absolute minimum standard of living” you need to earn $1.51 a day.

In 2014:

An estimated 82 million Chinese lived on less than $1 a day.

An estimated 200 million earned less than $1.25 a day

An estimated 400 million, or 30% of the population, earned under $1.51 a day.

In mid 2015 the World Bank revised the figure to $1.90 a day but data is not yet available to reflect this change.

The article at the bottom also talks about poverty causing mass child abandonment. Guangzhou, location of bluesky & rnk factories, opened its first baby hatch in 2014 so that parents could safely abandon their children. 262 were abandoned in 2 months. The hatch had to close as the orphanage reached capacity.



Whilst our countries are not without flaws suggesting parallels between them & China is absurd.

China executes more people than the rest of the world combined, has 10+ million undocumented children, state enforced abortions & sterilisation, suppression of religion & expression, enforced disappearances, child labour, black jails, widespread poverty & extreme media censorship.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/66c2df68-2d35-11e4-aca0-00144feabdc0.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/china-more-82-million-people-live-below-poverty-line-1470313
very interesting: https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/exhibition/ai-weiwei-360

You may think the comparison absurd, but that is a privileged perspective - the people in those segments do not think it absurd, nor does China and much of the UN. China's history as a closed society means that there is much misinformation and stereotyping out there in the west. Which is particularly ironic since China so desperately seeks to emulate things in the west. But this is a political discussion that is best carried out away from here, but all of your points in the second part deal with numbers rather than rates - with one fifth of the world's population, China is always going to rank high in terms of numbers, but it is the rate that matters. The US for example, has the highest rate of incarceration in the world, and our child abandonment rate is not dissimilar from China's. And while China has serious issues in the present, those issues are very similar to our own countries' history. And let's be honest, both of our countries are built on massive genocide and slavery, an era we have outgrown, but upon which all that we have is based. China has its problems and the sheer size of China makes a lot of the issues seem massive and pervasive ,and hide the real progress that is being made. Would I rather Iive in China - Oh hell no. But we are talking about using Chinese products. My point is that demonizing China or mis-categorizing it does not help in dealing with the real issues China is facing or creating real change in a critical part of the world.

 

[Zoey92]

Oh dear oh dear a post about a chemical burn turns into a raging debate....is this the normal on here

 

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