naturalnails
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This is confusing me - surely as a qualified professional you should be able to buy at trade prices.
If you are not then maybe your advice would be better off staying in the consumer forums.
China Glaze polish
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This is confusing me - surely as a qualified professional you should be able to buy at trade prices.
If you are not then maybe your advice would be better off staying in the consumer forums.
PlumberRaccoon
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My advice goes both for professionals that can buy at whole sale prices and for normal consumers. It's always cheaper to buy directy from the source, thus saving money on not paying the middle men.
I've found out that China Glaze don't want you to import from the U.S if you are a private person, they want you to buy from the distributors in your country instead. This sort if imply that it's not the distributors in England that are over pricing, it's China glaze that want the non U.S buyers (both professionals and normal people) to pay a higher price, they charge you more if you are from outside the U.S so never mind what I said about distributors in England over pricing, because they will never get a price as good as the whole sale buyers in U.S.
This sort of reminds me of the Japanese (Or was it chinese?) company Lik-Sang, that were sued by Sony because they exported Japanese consoles to EU and US. It's the same principe. Seems to me that companies always want to charge higher prices if you are from outside the country.
I've found out that China Glaze don't want you to import from the U.S if you are a private person, they want you to buy from the distributors in your country instead. This sort if imply that it's not the distributors in England that are over pricing, it's China glaze that want the non U.S buyers (both professionals and normal people) to pay a higher price, they charge you more if you are from outside the U.S so never mind what I said about distributors in England over pricing, because they will never get a price as good as the whole sale buyers in U.S.
This sort of reminds me of the Japanese (Or was it chinese?) company Lik-Sang, that were sued by Sony because they exported Japanese consoles to EU and US. It's the same principe. Seems to me that companies always want to charge higher prices if you are from outside the country.
I have used china glaze for a long while and totally love all the colours, it really does look lovely and last a long time. I have just bought the loves you snow much collection with display from the UK very nice. 
PlumberRaccoon
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I love Emerald sparkle and Ruby Pumps from that collections! Truly classics.
Beautification
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CHINA GLAZE POLISH
these are cheapest ive seen
these are cheapest ive seen
PlumberRaccoon
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they certainly are, I already had the ruby pumps but not the emerald green, tinsel (silver) or golden rings (gold), great set to retail at xmas. I use and retail (to my customers) alot of ruby pumps and will do doubt do the same with the emerald green.
ValencianNails
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Again, that's an American site... when will the penny drop that it's ALWAYS better to support your own country's distributors.
US techs buy from the US, UK techs should buy from the UK.
One day you (in general, to everyone) will need a distributor in your own country and find out that they're not there any longer, sold out by the technicians who prefer to buy products overseas and save a few pounds here and there.
You won't get the same kind of customer support by buying overseas. If you're buying from a website, which in all fairness could be owned by any old Tom D!ck or Harry, how do you even know that the products they're selling are the real deal?
I just don't understand it, really, I don't!
Is anyone actually reading what is being said here????!!!!
Support your AUTHORISED DISTRIBUTOR!
They do so much more than just provide your products.
Yes, we can carry on and debate this, 'til the cows come home if necessary....but I think linking to the US websites is against the Forum rules
Support your AUTHORISED DISTRIBUTOR!
They do so much more than just provide your products.
Yes, we can carry on and debate this, 'til the cows come home if necessary....but I think linking to the US websites is against the Forum rules
naturalnails
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We also need to be thinking about who is giving out the advice here - who do you trust - qualified professionals who buy from approved, authorised distributors or consumers who will buy from sites who will sell to anyone whether qualified or not - do we really want to be buying from sites like those anyway.
It has happened time and time again on here - people ask advice about where to buy things, some people recommend unlicenced websites in goodness knows where and the people then get let down and they expect their local distributors to sort their problems out and bless them sometimes they do out of the goodness of their hearts - so who would you want to buy from - I know what my answer would be!
It has happened time and time again on here - people ask advice about where to buy things, some people recommend unlicenced websites in goodness knows where and the people then get let down and they expect their local distributors to sort their problems out and bless them sometimes they do out of the goodness of their hearts - so who would you want to buy from - I know what my answer would be!
PlumberRaccoon
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Then what is it then that the England distributors do more than supply you with products...?
If you've studied civics at all you'd find that it's good with some competition between distributors and companies, it makes them better.
If you've studied civics at all you'd find that it's good with some competition between distributors and companies, it makes them better.
PlumberRaccoon
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That site that I recommended is actually quite good. If you're into nail polish blogs at all then you'd know that lots of bloggers have recommended it. I don't know which kind of problems you mean when you say "sort out their problems"? If you just do your home work before buying and google around for feedback it should be fine.
(... as long as you're only buying nail polish)
ValencianNails
Positivity rules!
PlumberRaccoon
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Distributors in U.S can have great customer service too. As for trouble shooting and back up the school where you got your training usually helps you with that, at least in Sweden.
"As a professional, I prefer to listen to other professionals before making my purchases, not from blogs where the public are discussing the application problems that they get from using professional enamels but not knowing how to correctly prep the nail and apply enamels properly.
re the homework... I do that by using this site, and as I said before, it's a site for salon professionals, ie those who have had training and education in their chosen career, I listen to those "in the know" not those "not in the know"!"
You make it sound like normal, non professional people are idiots. It's NAIL POLISH we're talking about, even normal people can learn how to "prep" and apply it properly to the nail. It's not rocket science, even if you want it to sound that way. Many nail polish blogs are written by people that have a lot of experience using nail polish, and some of these people have even taken manicure courses themselves. Your arguments falls flat to the ground.
Also, the fact that they "don't know how to prep and apply" polish properly doesn't have anything at all to do with wheter the company they are buying nail polish from is a good, reputable company or not. The recommendations I've gotten from nail polish blogs about where to buy polish have all been about things such as fast delivery, good prices and customer service, not if the polish are good or not. (I kinda thought that nail polish brands were the same no matter in what country you bought them but maybe I'm wrong...)
"As a professional, I prefer to listen to other professionals before making my purchases, not from blogs where the public are discussing the application problems that they get from using professional enamels but not knowing how to correctly prep the nail and apply enamels properly.
re the homework... I do that by using this site, and as I said before, it's a site for salon professionals, ie those who have had training and education in their chosen career, I listen to those "in the know" not those "not in the know"!"
You make it sound like normal, non professional people are idiots. It's NAIL POLISH we're talking about, even normal people can learn how to "prep" and apply it properly to the nail. It's not rocket science, even if you want it to sound that way. Many nail polish blogs are written by people that have a lot of experience using nail polish, and some of these people have even taken manicure courses themselves. Your arguments falls flat to the ground.
Also, the fact that they "don't know how to prep and apply" polish properly doesn't have anything at all to do with wheter the company they are buying nail polish from is a good, reputable company or not. The recommendations I've gotten from nail polish blogs about where to buy polish have all been about things such as fast delivery, good prices and customer service, not if the polish are good or not. (I kinda thought that nail polish brands were the same no matter in what country you bought them but maybe I'm wrong...)
ValencianNails
Positivity rules!
You obviously aren't interested in the concept of supporting distributors in your own country, more fool you in the future when you won't get the support and customer service you'll need and depend on to run a successful business!
On that note I'll leave you to argue with yourself as I'm done with this now, the information just isn't getting through is it?
PlumberRaccoon
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If they can't provide the consumer with competitive prices it's their fault for losing customers, and in the long run go out of business, not my fault for buying from another company.
Maybe you aren't listening to what I said in one of the previous posts, I said that support and troubleshooting you get from the school you trained with, it's not the distributors task to deal with that. In other words, you don't need to support the distributor in your country in order to run a business that's successfull. And I've seen that most brands have academies in the U.K, in other words if you buy let's CND polish from the U.S and have problems with it then I expect you can just get help from the English school you trained with. This thread is about China glaze though and I haven't seem them offering training in England, but it's nail polish we're talking about, I can't see why you'd need support or trouble shooting about that, if you do then maybe you shouldn't be a techniqian...
It's an ethical thing to support your countries companies, but it's not always good if you look at it from a business perspective.
And what you said about me not having any training isn't relevant at all as we're speaking about the business side of things.
Maybe you aren't listening to what I said in one of the previous posts, I said that support and troubleshooting you get from the school you trained with, it's not the distributors task to deal with that. In other words, you don't need to support the distributor in your country in order to run a business that's successfull. And I've seen that most brands have academies in the U.K, in other words if you buy let's CND polish from the U.S and have problems with it then I expect you can just get help from the English school you trained with. This thread is about China glaze though and I haven't seem them offering training in England, but it's nail polish we're talking about, I can't see why you'd need support or trouble shooting about that, if you do then maybe you shouldn't be a techniqian...
It's an ethical thing to support your countries companies, but it's not always good if you look at it from a business perspective.
And what you said about me not having any training isn't relevant at all as we're speaking about the business side of things.
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Products cost more via distribution in part because of the additional expense in shipping, but also because of the distribution process (i.e. shipping, storage and staff to manage), averaging currency conversions, education, marketing and PR in the local area.
Without those activities, you or your clients would have never heard of the product and thus never wanted it. Bypassing the distributor ironically is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Furthermore if the $0.05 per application is 'make or break' for your business, I suspect that no amount of cost shaving will save you
Thats the problem, you aren't viewing it from a business perspective, only a very short sighted one.
If there is no marketing, pr or educational activities in your country then you will most likely never know about the product anyway. Cost per service is a tiny fraction of a professionals overheads and trying to shave like this is a false economy.
PlumberRaccoon
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I'm not talking about importing some sort of strange brand no one ever have heard of so what you said isn't really relevant.
Also, multiply those $0,05 a few thousand times (the times you're charging for it in your life time if you work with nails the rest of your life) and the money you can save is quite much. Also, you can save more than $0,05 if you import other products than nail polish that you use, so the money you save can be even more.
" Furthermore if the $0.05 per application is 'make or break' for your business, I suspect that no amount of cost shaving will save you"
My point isn't that I'd need those savings to keep the business running, it's about the savings you can make. It's a difference as wide as the sea.
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PlumberRaccoon
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There is no marketing for China glaze that I've seen, but there is for other product brands so I can't really see why buying from the U.S would make no one want a product that's exactly the same as the ones the salon across the streets are using.
Maybe you wouldn't save that much because you'd use a lot of your time on importing, it's more the principle of the whole thing that's upsetting me and personally I wouldn't want to buy something that's using a currency that equals to 1 USD = 30 SEK which is just wrong. No PR, marketing, shipping costs or shipping cost boxes for that matter justifies that.
