Velveteen
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This statement is gibberish.
Much like your position, which crumbles quickly under the weight of your own self importance.
Good point, Lynne.
For those of you that have done HD brow training.....
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This statement is gibberish.
Much like your position, which crumbles quickly under the weight of your own self importance.
Good point, Lynne.
kimi1101
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Now ladies, do I need to post my video about baking cakes made from rainbows and smiles again?! (If you didn't see it before, I think you may think I'm crackers)
TBH I am interested in it. As Lynne said before, when you take into account the cost of the course, plus the expanse of travel, the day off work etc, it could be very costly to do this training. And ppor Cabinkel is getting lost in amongst all of this. She has some valid questions, which is what the thread was surely created for, and the person it is directed to is ignoring them to have a spat!!!
I think it would be great to see some pictures of before and after. Does anyone on here do them and have these pics on their website?
Now quit the squabbling before I have to bash your heads together!! (Always wanted to say that lol)
TBH I am interested in it. As Lynne said before, when you take into account the cost of the course, plus the expanse of travel, the day off work etc, it could be very costly to do this training. And ppor Cabinkel is getting lost in amongst all of this. She has some valid questions, which is what the thread was surely created for, and the person it is directed to is ignoring them to have a spat!!!
I think it would be great to see some pictures of before and after. Does anyone on here do them and have these pics on their website?
Now quit the squabbling before I have to bash your heads together!! (Always wanted to say that lol)
kimi1101
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Haha, people should show the pom pom some respect
SusanEvian
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This statement is gibberish.
Much like your position, which crumbles quickly under the weight of your own self importance.
Good point, Lynne.
Sorry lynne I have not, I agree.
Do not involve me in this spat,Velveteen falsely stated many points that she again knows nothing about, I will say one more time.
On day one of the course it is laid down to us about copyright, and about the quality of using the name, they state people will have to come back if they are not doing this correctly and they stated about revoking the certification.
This is what they said, I for one do not want people doing this in a sub standard way, Velveteen was not there (again) so she has no comment on the terms.
If you have any questions I will try to answer them as best I can if you like, or there is possibly someone posting above that seems to know all about this, even though she has never added this external skill to her C.V
If life we comment on what we know, if we don't know we ask questions.
talking about a course and product you have not been trained in, saying how good or bad is this possible?
Cabinkel, a quick look finds this, hope this helps hun.......
Salon Name Beauty Avant Garde Hair & Beauty
Contact Name Kiara Pel
Salon Address 16-18 The Rowe Harlow Essex
CM20 1BZ
Telephone 01279 451219
Su x
I am afraid to say, and people will agree you will never learn on standard courses what you will on a specialised course, with a 1 trainer per student basis and the best tutors.
Su xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Oh thanks, Harlow is quite a way from me, but may be worth the trip. I actualy fancy going into Urban retreat and having it done, I always like to have a treatment, so I can talk from first hand experience if I offer it.
This course really does appeal to me. I have obviously done tinting, waxing etc when I did my beauty training, but in no way call myself a specialist in this area. I want to be a specialist, and think it will fit in with my business lovely. I do think it is expensive, but I have looked at many other courses and they dont seem to have the "punch" that the HD brows does. Now, I agree that it could all be marketing hype, but isnt that what we need to promote the service anyway? Its a tough decision, and an expensive choice!
This course really does appeal to me. I have obviously done tinting, waxing etc when I did my beauty training, but in no way call myself a specialist in this area. I want to be a specialist, and think it will fit in with my business lovely. I do think it is expensive, but I have looked at many other courses and they dont seem to have the "punch" that the HD brows does. Now, I agree that it could all be marketing hype, but isnt that what we need to promote the service anyway? Its a tough decision, and an expensive choice!
SusanEvian
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You may be best jumping on a train or car and go and see one of the team at Milton Keynes, book a treatment with one of her team and have the HD treatment done, think its £25 ask about the course and check the training out.
The two girls who work there are the best at this there is, they do HD Brows most of the day all day!!! they are two of the trainers as well!
Kiran and Amita, I would say there would be no better because of the volume that they do. I have had a few treatments with them myself, far better than urban as they have been doing this for a long time.
Broughton,, Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire MK16 0HU
01908 242 023
Personally I would ask for kiran, hope this helps.
Su x
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pinkfrooty
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I don't believe it is worth doing the course. With threading experience you can master getting close to the eyebrow shape by bullying hair and taking out small hairs that come to the surface. Tweezers and waxing is not good for the skin in the long run.
Most of youknow how to tint eyebrows and creating definition by staining gaps and drawing lines. Then all you need to do is sell a pencil to your client as after care.
One pro I can say is that by doing the course you get the brand which is what seems to be selling.
Most of youknow how to tint eyebrows and creating definition by staining gaps and drawing lines. Then all you need to do is sell a pencil to your client as after care.
One pro I can say is that by doing the course you get the brand which is what seems to be selling.
angelina221
Master Lash Tech
What????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which school did you go to??
If waxing is done correctly, there is no negative effect to the skin.
bombini
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I haven't really got any desire to do this training but I do feel for the people that have done it and are constantly having to defend it.
Why have so many people got a bee in their bonnet over this course, its always getting slated by people that haven't even done the training. I have yet to see one negative comment from someone who has done the training, quite the opposite. Im sure if someone had a bad experience they would be straight on here to tell us about it.
Why have so many people got a bee in their bonnet over this course, its always getting slated by people that haven't even done the training. I have yet to see one negative comment from someone who has done the training, quite the opposite. Im sure if someone had a bad experience they would be straight on here to tell us about it.
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allyballybee
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Think you've hit the nail on head here bombini.
I've had more PMs on HD Brows than any other topic I've posted on the forum.
Whilst I do try to help people, I feel their is some really just want me to tell me how to do the treatment. I couldn't tell someone in a few PM's how to do it, you really need to go on the course.
I feel I need to defend the treatment and the training, because of the negative comments on here from people that have not done the course.
It is worth the money (and expenses incurred) and it is a very popular treatment in my salon. If someone was to go on the course and disagree, then fair enough, but I have not seen this yet.
For the lady that had hers done and didn't like them (something about the tint - wasn't quite sure what she meant, or what when wrong), I feel I would check if the therapist that done them was actually trained in the HD Brows.
I managed to find a salon that were doing HD Brows, but their own version, without the training. The called it HD Brows - Highly Defined Eyebrows. They have copied HD's images and text and have it on their website, but they have replaced High Definition Brows with Highly Defined. Which makes me think they haven't done the course. So check if they've really done it.
Either that, or it could be just the person doing it. I have employed staff with certificates coming out of their ears, can they do a good treatment? The training was brilliant and very through, but some people may just not of grasped it, like any other treatment. I believe CND is a good product, great training etc, but just because they've done the course, does that make them automatically brilliant?
I suspect a lot of people posted negative comments actually want to do the course. I know for a fact one of them was trying to find out from their clients whether they should offer it.
I'm not sure about making you retrain, but this can only be a good thing. They want you to do this treatment right.
I for one get annoyed at myself posting good stuff about the HD Brows, cos it might tempt more people into doing it. The less people doing it, the more clients for me.
I did think it was a lot of money to the course, I did ponder on it, but I'm glad I did. Every single client is rebooking and I've got a client travels 2.5 hours to get them done.
Don't knock it till you've tried it.
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SusanEvian
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Well said....There is nothing like people saying things that they do not understand or carry out them self.
again well said
Su xxxxx
Purple Rose
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I am still interested in doing this course, and thought the best thing was to experience it for myself first of all. I haven't booked anything in but I phoned up a salon to book myself in, and I hope the person who answered the phone was only a Receptionist as she said oh you mean the waxing and tinting for brows.... Urm I want the HD brows not just a wax and a tint which I can do myself and save myself £20 for the privilege. I was a bit unsure at that point so have said I'll ring back. Now I don't know what to do, and Milton Keynes is that little bit too far away to go to trial it. I'll be really cross if that is all they do for me, but I think I'll still book myself in just to trial it.
SusanEvian
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Purple rose, I see you are in Essex the same as Cabikel, when I looked on the HD site I only saw two salons that carry this out in Essex, The address I posted above I know is a very nice place, I dont know the other salon listed. I cant see them saying that? maybe?
Go to a good place like was said above there is rip off versions who copy but call it similar.
Su x
Purple Rose
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Thanks Su, I didn't want to shout out names so didn't put the name of the salon down, also the chances are it could have been a receptionist who may not have known the treatment. I am going to book in with the one you said as you have recommended it. I'll then be able to give an honest feedback of having it done personally and whether I feel it is the right course for me.
I'm very intrigued about this course! But am just starting up so I'm going to earn some ££££s before deciding! On the HD website there was someone near me who does it, but although I've contacted her she never came back to me
Hi
Like alot of you I am very curious about HD Brows, not to actually offer it but for myself and my own very dodgy eyebrows!!
Years of plucking as a wee thing with very little knowledge of what I was doing to them have made them a little shorter/thinner than I like.
I've booked into the clinic in Rochester that has been mentioned, spoke to the lovely lady herself who explained she was also a trainer for this product which made me feel lots better
My only niggle is that she explains the tint used is the same sort of tint that we use for our tinting of lashes and eyebrows (which I sort of expected) and will only last on the skin the same amount of time and that it would be an ongoing treatment to have HD Brows to encourage my own eyebrows to grow to the shape achieved with HD Brows.
This would usually be great but I don't think my eyebrows will grow back from the abuse they have received in my early years as I am now no longer a spring chicken (more a farmyard donkey!!) but I think I will still go for the experience. She also does semi permanent make up so I think that this will probably be my only option if I become desperate.
Appointment a week tomorrow so will let you all know how I get on.
Like alot of you I am very curious about HD Brows, not to actually offer it but for myself and my own very dodgy eyebrows!!
Years of plucking as a wee thing with very little knowledge of what I was doing to them have made them a little shorter/thinner than I like.
I've booked into the clinic in Rochester that has been mentioned, spoke to the lovely lady herself who explained she was also a trainer for this product which made me feel lots better
My only niggle is that she explains the tint used is the same sort of tint that we use for our tinting of lashes and eyebrows (which I sort of expected) and will only last on the skin the same amount of time and that it would be an ongoing treatment to have HD Brows to encourage my own eyebrows to grow to the shape achieved with HD Brows.
This would usually be great but I don't think my eyebrows will grow back from the abuse they have received in my early years as I am now no longer a spring chicken (more a farmyard donkey!!) but I think I will still go for the experience. She also does semi permanent make up so I think that this will probably be my only option if I become desperate.
Appointment a week tomorrow so will let you all know how I get on.
Velveteen
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It never ceases to amaze me how, when given the opportunity to profer an opinion, that it's avidly welcomed when it's agreed with but when it's not, it's relegated to "bee in a bonnet" status or treated to a particular brand of lashing that seems to delight in making presumptions about the poster's experiences, training and personal attributes. All, of course, because they don't agree with what someone else has written.
You won't get negative comments from those who have done the training as the agreement they sign prior to doing so nips that in the bud. And with people like SusanEvian threatening to haul people before some HD kangaroo court, would you complain? Information that you provide on this site can be gleaned by fellow users that can be used against them and I can appreciate why some choose not to comment accordingly.
I am not saying the training is BAD. What I am saying is that it's a gimmick and an expensive one at that. Should you choose to read beyond this is your choice. Own it.
If you want to spend six hundred pounds training to carry out what is a basic skill set in your NVQ2 then go for your life. But in saying that, it is foolhardy for one to automatically assume that -
(a) because someone owns a company that specialises in eyebrows makes them an expert (or, god forbid, a "Brow Queen");
(b) because someone does not agree with the cost/training aspects automatically means that they are disrespecting the course or those who have taken it; and
(c) that because a course offers training in a basic skill set doesn't mean that the skills you learned in college are sh*tful, irrelevant or of a lesser standard.
Nilam Patel is a canny businesswoman, not a beauty therapist. And good luck to her. She's found a niche in the market that is proving to be profitable for her. But really, enough of the slagging, ladies - let's just move on.
boobious
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This statement is gibberish.
Much like your position, which crumbles quickly under the weight of your own self importance.
Good point, Lynne.
Well said, could not agree more!
