Help! anyone with knowledge on the Fabric system ?

[cutie'cool nail]

Thanks for your reply Sandi,

Do you not find the MTW a very gooey thick substance, mine is brand new and really looks quite thick, I have also looked into another bottle I have and its the same. Also any idea why I might be getting very faint white specs on completion, could this be holding the blast activator (spray) too close, (I am sure I am not though!!) Until I can truly master this MTW I suppose I could paint on a frence at the end.

Any suggestions on above?

Thanks,

Lisa.

 

[ValencianNails]

try placing the bottle of MTW in between your thighs a few minutes before you're due to use it, the heat from your body seems to make it easier to use, easier flow etc.
I don't find it sticky at all if I do the 'thigh' trick (as stolen off Ruth, NailsinLondon lol)
If you brush off the nail or take a clean lint free pad and wipe the nail before your final coats of resin then you should see a difference, I get this sometimes and it seems to be a tiny 'pit' which disappears if i wipe it over.
don't give up on MTW just yet, it might take a little while for you to become familiar with how it works, everyone has their own different techniques, have a 'play' with MTW and find your technique
(don't forget to share it with us all lol)

 

[ValencianNails]

ooh... by the way... you can get pitting if holding the spray activator too close to the nails

 

[cutie'cool nail]

Thanks Sandi for you reply on the MTW. I am not going to give up on the MTW but I might just give it a rest for a minute. It's really getting me down. The only reason I really changed to the Fabric# system was because of the MTW, I have never had any problems with the other system I use, maybe I should just go back to it and paint on the french afterwards, I just feel abit disheartened with it all at the moment, but I do appreciate everybody's help. It is very interesting to hear that others do have the same problems. Do you know if there is any other MTW they do, slightly less white, as alot of my clients like something a little more subtle. One of my clients recently tried the MTW, for the first time, and said she could live with it, but she said "don't you think it looks abit like Tippex on the ends of your fingers! quite unnatural"!!!! fine!

I will try the thigh trick though - thanks.

Lisa X

 

[ValencianNails]

as far as I know MTW comes in one colour.
the tippex effect you mention might be due to the consistency, using the 'thigh' trick should overcome it.
pleased to hear that you're not going to give up on it, having a break for a few days might help, it could be that you're trying 'too hard' with it all and need to start afresh.
:hug: x

 

[cutie'cool nail]

Thanks for your reply Sandi.

Would you know of a clear Acetone? well not necessarily clear but light in colour, as the one I use at the moment has a slight puple tinge to it, and I am finding that the colour is staying on the nail free edge when I soak off -strange? any suggestions on where I could purchase one?

Thanks again,

Lisa.

 

[ValencianNails]

your local supplier should have clear acetone/product remover
x

 

[PLAOH]

Thanks for your reply Sandi.

Would you know of a clear Acetone? well not necessarily clear but light in colour, as the one I use at the moment has a slight puple tinge to it, and I am finding that the colour is staying on the nail free edge when I soak off -strange? any suggestions on where I could purchase one?

Thanks again,

Lisa.

I've purchased product remover (acetone) from Designer nails, Capital and Pure Nails and all are clear in colour

HTH

 

[cutie'cool nail]

Could anybody help me on this one please. When using a brush on resin, why is the brush going all hard, it probably is 'going off' but how are you supposed to brush the resin on without the brush going rock hard almost. I place it back in the bottle with the lid on tight. Can you do one nail, back in the bottle of resin, next nail, back in the resin etc, then brush back in the bottle of resin lid tightly on? what am I doing wrong? Can I make the brush soft again by putting the brush in acetone, or is this a no,no. But the main question being, how can I use this brush on resin please.

Any answers greatfully received!!

Lisa X

 

[ValencianNails]

which resin is it... build or boost?
if it's build make sure you don't have the brush near any spray activator so activate all 10 nails at the same time with the resin brush safely in the bottle.
if it's boost then remember to wipe the brush in a circular movement on a lint free pad, 3 times to the left and 3 times to the right before placing it back in the bottle.
I wouldn't think it will hurt to soak the resin brush in acetone for a while to remove hardened resin but I've never had to do it before so it's just a guess.
read through the tutorial again just to refresh your memory
xx :hug:

 

[cutie'cool nail]

Sorry Sandi, I should have explained.

This set of nails that I was doing, was not with Fabric# I had gone back to my old system, of silk with resin, the resin is (The Edge,by Alida) this is a brush on resin as explained before. I have put away the Fabric for a few weeks until I can get it right, too many things were going wrong. I have now found a brush on resin which I used before, only before I used it with a nozzle, its exactly the same only with a brush not a nozzle, which was supposed to be far easier!!!

Any suggestions,


Lisa X.

 

[ValencianNails]

ahh, ok, i should have realised you were giving Fabric a break for a few days from the previous post.
so... is it an 'activator' problem then? with the resin you use do you apply to the nails, then activate, then apply more resin, then activate again?
if this is the case then there will be activator in the air and also on the nails, when your brush comes out of the resin bottle for the second coat of resin it immediately comes into contact with the activator.
hope that makes sense.
x

 

[cutie'cool nail]

Really appreciate you getting back to me Sandi, you are being most helpful - Thanks.

That could explain things, also maybe on Fabric# too - you may even be a genious!!!! Going back to the system that I have gone back to, yes I place on the silk, use brush on resin, then activate (spray, not brush on). On the first coat though, I dont always buff off the excess activator, so although it is dry, maybe there is still activator laying on the nail, then on the second coat when applying the resin maybe it is pulling up some activator which has been applied before (1st coat) so I need to buff gently with a white block do I after every spray of activator? and to get my shine back is this just with my oil and final buff? So this would be why the brush is getting some lumpy bits of resin in it, because it has taken off some of the lose activator which I have not buffed off, the only reason I don't buff of every time is that it is smooth and didn't think I had too - OOOPS! Coudl this also go for the Fabric# system?

Should I be able to do 5 nails with the resin, dipping it back into the pot after say 2 or 3 nails, and presumably wait a minute or two for the activator spray to settle in the air before getting out the resin again - should it settle in a minute or so?

Thanks so much Sandi,

Look forward to hearing from you,

Lisa X

 

[ValencianNails]

if it were me... i wouldn't activate between the first and second coats of resin, if it's applied with the right amount then nail #1 should be dry by the time you've finished nail #10, then you can apply your second coat of resin to all 10 nails and then do the activating when you've finished. i would then refine and buff making sure there is no shine left on the nail from the resin then if you need to resin again there shouldn't be any activator on the nail as you'd have buffed it off.
i think the problem is with doing 5 nails at a time and not the whole lot.
I used to do it that way with my old system... since i did my conversion to Fabric# I do the full set of 10, I get virtually no problems.
I'm thinking that maybe more classes would be a good idea as these types of problems should have been covered when you trained. Providing you use a company with good training ie CND, EZFlow, etc etc.

 

[cutie'cool nail]

Thanks again Sandi for your reply,

I will try doing all 10, and re-apply resin then activate. See what happens then. Could you when you have a minute talk me through exactly what you do when doing fabric# step by step. I have looked at the step by step but what do you do and what measures do you use, ie. bead of boost should on be lentil size? I have not done the Fabric# course, but thought I could just go over as I have done silk before, but I am obviously struggling with a few teething problems on the Fabric# system. Do you personally think Fabric# is best and do you use it with MTW or sometimes without the MTW?


Lisa X

 

[ValencianNails]

you don't need me or anyone else to talk you through it as it's all there on the tutorial. Like I said before to get the best out of any system it's better to do the conversion, that's what I did, yes it costs a little bit of money but the revenue you get back will cover the costs in no time at all.
I do prefer Fabric# to my previous system, other techs prefer other brands, it all depends on what works for you.
I use MTW when my client wants a sharp french finish, if they want a natural finish then i leave out the MTW application.

 

[cutie'cool nail]

It just baffles me as to how many different ways there are to do the same system. I would have thought this is the way to do it and thats that. I think rather than trying the MTW here or there, there should be a correct way. Anyway, appreciate your help, looks like the nail trainer will have to come back out. Creative trained me in L&P, which I don't like at all, that is why I am looking at getting other systems under my belt, but I think you have to be doing it for so many months before being allowed onto another course (System) I am just very keen to learn asap, hence all the questions.


Thanks anyway,

Lisa.

 

[cutie'cool nail]

On a little leaflet which came with the Fabric# starter kit, it states that you can use the MTW with any other system. When I applied the MTW it looked fine, then I brused on my resin over the silk which seemed to leave a few brush marks through the MTW (the MTW was definately dry as I had left it ages) I then spray activated it, which I didn't think you were supposed to do, but if it is used with all systems as it states - why not. Can you resin they spray activate 2 or 3 times, is this the same as using the brush on activator, as I know the brush on activator is a slow curing activator, but what is the difference between the 2, and can both be used with the MTW?

Any answers girls?

 

[ValencianNails]

If you look in the Tutorial section it shows/tells you how to use the MTW with all 3 systems
.......L+P, gel and Fabric#/Generic fibreglass

 

[cutie'cool nail]

I have seen the tutorials, but I am not using it with the Fabric# system, I am using it with a silk/resin system only not actually the Fabric# system. I am using silk, resin and activating with a spray only, not a brush on activator as I would do with Fabric#, this is what I was asking in previous post.