Highlights on an 11 year old.
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mally123pink
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I am so glad I have two boys!
Essential Bliss
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Also had highlights from about the age of 12 for a couple years, changed and had an all over colour couple years later, had l+p when I was 13, no harm done to me, I didn't try to be am adult to early, I was into beauty etc, young people want to experiment, if you no you are insured, you are doing a professional treatment that is up to standards, what's the harm in that?
Kayleigh xx
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Kayleigh xx
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Totally agree! My daughter is 10 and she has a few foils, kids in her school have died their hair all colours, I'd rather make sure it's done right so I know she's safe.
VHunter
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Alrighty then........
Professionally speaking..
I would NOT do it because in all likelihood, it's NOT covered by the insurance. Thanks by no thanks, I'm not interested in taking risks.
Also, Morals do not come into this.... let's make that clear.
HOWEVER, as a Mother, I personally would NOT do it. My children (girls) are 7 & 9yrs old and I actually DISCOURAGE them from wearing nail polish.
They are CHILDREN, NOT Teens, NOT Adults.
There are a few issues at hand here, in addition to the Insurance angle.
1) the issue of children encouraged to grow up much too fast. Guess what folks, there is no 'do-over' for childhood and innocence. They get one crack at it and I'm certainly in no hurry of robbing my children of such things
2) Society/Media bears too much focus on 'appearance' and not enough on the inner person. That said, too many are in a hurry to 'change' the outside because it's an easy/quick fix; instead of teaching their children to love who they are and accept themselves.
There are other ways to instill self-confidence other than via cosmetic-means, in children. Cosmetics is temporary..... but inner-confidence will stick with them.
That said............I'll move on before I ramble any further and inadvertently offend someone.
Those are just my opinions.
I'm not judgeing anyone.
Take what you will from it.
Professionally speaking..
I would NOT do it because in all likelihood, it's NOT covered by the insurance. Thanks by no thanks, I'm not interested in taking risks.
Also, Morals do not come into this.... let's make that clear.
HOWEVER, as a Mother, I personally would NOT do it. My children (girls) are 7 & 9yrs old and I actually DISCOURAGE them from wearing nail polish.
They are CHILDREN, NOT Teens, NOT Adults.
There are a few issues at hand here, in addition to the Insurance angle.
1) the issue of children encouraged to grow up much too fast. Guess what folks, there is no 'do-over' for childhood and innocence. They get one crack at it and I'm certainly in no hurry of robbing my children of such things
2) Society/Media bears too much focus on 'appearance' and not enough on the inner person. That said, too many are in a hurry to 'change' the outside because it's an easy/quick fix; instead of teaching their children to love who they are and accept themselves.
There are other ways to instill self-confidence other than via cosmetic-means, in children. Cosmetics is temporary..... but inner-confidence will stick with them.
That said............I'll move on before I ramble any further and inadvertently offend someone.
Those are just my opinions.
I'm not judgeing anyone.
Take what you will from it.
eskimonailtech
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I got my first tattoo at 16. It didnt turn me into the neighbourhood ****.
VHunter
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I'm hoping that's not aimed at me.
I'm pretty sure I didn't infer anything of the kind.
eskimonailtech
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No, it was a general statement. I'm really trying my best not to turn this thread into an arguement about parenting techniques.
xhoniebunnyx
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Are you a parent?
eskimonailtech
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Again, this thread isnt about parenting. It's about whether you would do it as a therapist.
My first reaction was. 11, that's too young!
As I carried on reading my thoughts changed.
If the parent is happy and insurance covers the treatment then why not?
Yes, we live in an age where there is too much wrong. But there is a lot worse than a bit of hair dye out there.
I'm not a parent but I've noticed parents always love to judge other peoples parenting. My dad being the worst! Lol. My dad is forever pointing out what my uncles are doing wrong with their kids. And I just think, dad, u were a terrible parent! Never disciplined me at all, just left it to mum. But I never burst his little bubble, jus smile along
As I carried on reading my thoughts changed.
If the parent is happy and insurance covers the treatment then why not?
Yes, we live in an age where there is too much wrong. But there is a lot worse than a bit of hair dye out there.
I'm not a parent but I've noticed parents always love to judge other peoples parenting. My dad being the worst! Lol. My dad is forever pointing out what my uncles are doing wrong with their kids. And I just think, dad, u were a terrible parent! Never disciplined me at all, just left it to mum. But I never burst his little bubble, jus smile along
eskimonailtech
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It's just hair. Not a thong bikini. 
persianista
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Our treatment risk insurance does cover us to perform services on children. How the hell would they get their hair cut otherwise?
Really, this hiding your opinions behind "insurance" is wearing thin.
If you don't want to do foils on youngsters then don't, but lets not dress this up as anything other than personal opinion. Highlights on a kid won't hurt them, their hair, or their life prospects.
Really, this hiding your opinions behind "insurance" is wearing thin.
If you don't want to do foils on youngsters then don't, but lets not dress this up as anything other than personal opinion. Highlights on a kid won't hurt them, their hair, or their life prospects.
lee7smith
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Even though she wants them all the way through you could suggest having them quite fine and more scattered throughout, giving a more natural sun kissed effect !
This way she is still having it done and won't be high maintenance so more of a couple of times a year thing ! It will just brighten her natural hair up then change it completely !
This way she is still having it done and won't be high maintenance so more of a couple of times a year thing ! It will just brighten her natural hair up then change it completely !
I'm finding hard to understand why people find that having varnish, hair colors etc on are creating 'mini adults' and making are children grow up to quickly?
Kids always play 'dress up' and copy adults .... Imo it no different that putting on a policemans costume.....
Ok I'd be very worried if a kid under 18 come in and asked to be vajazzeled, that's a whole new thread.!! but a bit of paint or colour is not going to cause harm!!
It's a natural process for a child to experiment with their apperance, So surely its much better to get things done, that don't last for ever and are done professionally???
Were in an industry were we get paid to make people look and feel better .... So why wouldn't you do it in a near teenager who's prob very self consious, ( I know I was) and would love the little 'helping hand to make her feel better' .
If the girls mother agrees with it getting done then what the problem.??
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Kids always play 'dress up' and copy adults .... Imo it no different that putting on a policemans costume.....
Ok I'd be very worried if a kid under 18 come in and asked to be vajazzeled, that's a whole new thread.!! but a bit of paint or colour is not going to cause harm!!
It's a natural process for a child to experiment with their apperance, So surely its much better to get things done, that don't last for ever and are done professionally???
Were in an industry were we get paid to make people look and feel better .... So why wouldn't you do it in a near teenager who's prob very self consious, ( I know I was) and would love the little 'helping hand to make her feel better' .
If the girls mother agrees with it getting done then what the problem.??
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VHunter
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Well, first I would say that there's a large difference between cutting hair, and changing it's colour.
Then I would say there is also a great difference between an 11yr old and a Teenager.
I'm also for boosting their confidence. Don't get me wrong... but as I said earlier, I think in this generation, we look for quick and easy fixes.
I was a child that wore makeup too early and coloured my hair too young, to feel better about myself. My mom did nothing, said nothing.
I emphasize "child" because 11 and 12 is a CHILD.
I WISH my mother had put her foot down, gotten to the root of the problem and talked to me, and found ways to build my self confidence and make me feel better about my self image. NOPE, she didn't do a thing...
So this pattern continued into adulthood. Lacking in self confidence, relying upon cosmetics and what not because THAT's what the Media told me was the only way I could be pretty.
But makeup and hairdye didn't change my nose, or my large forehead, or my flat chest.......and since I didn't have INNER confidence.....I couldn't accept what I deemed as flaws.
I didn't hit my stride and become confident until my 30's........ a lot of painful years went on before that. A LOT of mistakes made due to the lacking self-confidence.........
I could have been saved all of that, and been happier IF my mom had talked to me and found tools to make me feel good on the INSIDE.
IF it had been dealt with in my childhood, I would have been stronger facing my adolescence and adulthood.
YES, we're in the business of beauty. But as with any job, we should think with our hearts sometimes.
Sometimes we SHOULD let our hearts be the deciding factor.
If no one EVER let their hearts lead them, then where on earth would this planet be?
We're all different, and have differing opinions. That's fine, let's agree to disagree. BUT nothing wrong with sharing food for thought sometimes, amongst each other, to give another perspective.
As for one poster saying this shouldn't be a debate (sorry, having a brainfart, can't quite remember whom without scrolling)... well, the OP made it such when she posed her question as she did.
Had it been only a question of Insurance, she would have called her Insurance company.
Other things that have popped into my mind, more food for thought:
In Quebec, you can't drive until you're 18yrs old.
You can't drink until you're 18.
You can't have a tatoo until you're 18, without a parental consent (they must be in attendance and prove they're the parent).
Certain 'piercings' require parental consent as well.
There must be reasons for this? That there would be 'laws' in place, and why such things wouldn't be permitted until adulthood.
Just food for thought....
Alex-Lydia
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I found the information below in the Goldwell hair mag earlier this year...it applies to all brands...
'EU Directive Colour for Under 16's
You may notice that on Goldwell Color products there is a new guideline appearing that states: "THIS PRODUCT IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE ON PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 16".
This recommendation comes from the EU Commission and must be stated on all oxidative and non-oxidative coloration products by November 2011.'
I have had a bee in my bonnet about it since seeing it, apparently, it is because of reactions/allergies to hair colour.
Means we cannot colour under 16's hair and if they do it themselves, we cannot correct it...parents have no say...and professional have no say...and I assume insurance will not cover you...
'EU Directive Colour for Under 16's
You may notice that on Goldwell Color products there is a new guideline appearing that states: "THIS PRODUCT IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE ON PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 16".
This recommendation comes from the EU Commission and must be stated on all oxidative and non-oxidative coloration products by November 2011.'
I have had a bee in my bonnet about it since seeing it, apparently, it is because of reactions/allergies to hair colour.
Means we cannot colour under 16's hair and if they do it themselves, we cannot correct it...parents have no say...and professional have no say...and I assume insurance will not cover you...
bombini
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If you don't agree with it then don't do it. You shouldn't be influenced by other people because they think its ok if it really bothers you that much.
Personally If I had a daughter that wanted highlights at 11 I would probably let her have them done purely because I hated my hair from about that age and used sun in, home bleach kits etc as there was no way my mum would pay for a professional to do it. I wish she had as it would of looked much better than my DIY jobs !!
I do think children grow up very quickly now, I remember when I was nearing the end of primary school I had to play with my barbie dolls in secret as it was considered to babyish !
Personally If I had a daughter that wanted highlights at 11 I would probably let her have them done purely because I hated my hair from about that age and used sun in, home bleach kits etc as there was no way my mum would pay for a professional to do it. I wish she had as it would of looked much better than my DIY jobs !!
I do think children grow up very quickly now, I remember when I was nearing the end of primary school I had to play with my barbie dolls in secret as it was considered to babyish !
brittone05
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I can't give rep for you V as I have to spread the love a little but wanted to reply and say I wholly agree with your posts x
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