Tammy Taylor vs Creative Design

[Lellipop]

Bengalcat, PLEASE PLEASE don't say the above. If this board leans heavily to wards Creative, it is because many people who use it are on here but trust me when I say that my husband has worked incredibly hard to create a site for ANY nail tek no matter what product line they use. He is a Creative Ambassador and the advice we give is proven fact and not opinion... but at the end of the day... no matter how many times we have asked heads of companies etc to come onto the site to help THEIR customers... it is still really the same people doing the help... and like it or not those who give up their time for free, are CND.

I am the distributor for CND in the UK... but I would happily (and have done 100000 times) give my help to anyone who needs it and I do not ram CND down their throats when I do.

Sorry to go on, but I just get so frustrated by these comments.
Respectfully Yours

I can second that I have many many friends on this site and they dont all use Creative, This thread was mentioning cnd and tt thats why all the creative techs have replied but if you put up a thread saying what product make do you use you will get all the nail companies mentioned.

 

[bengalkat]

No offense to you, your husband or this site but I have to disagree with you. Before I started using TT I would go to her site and watch the videos and check out all of the information she has on her site for free for any and all to view and learn by. What other product sites do that? I just logged into the pro site for CND to look around. There are links for distributors, promotions, events, education, trade shows, professional tools, MSDS and merchandise. There are some step-by-step links to check out but that's about it.

I have absolutely nothing against CND, I just choose to use TT. I don't know a single tech who uses TT who will put down another tech because she chooses to use something else. I have seen it numerous times where a tech who uses something else puts down TT tech without even thinking. I've seen it here and on a couple other sites. What it comes down to in the end though, is that we all have the right to chose the brand we want to use. Period. The original poster asked what people preferred. Period. I'm not going to 'diss' anyone because they choose CND or something else over TT. That's their choice. I've not been to this board much in the past few months because to those of us who choose NOT to use CND, it's does appear at times to be very one-sided (towards CND).

I know of a LOT of techs who don't use TT but go to her site weekly to check out her newest video or go in to watch some of the free videos that she offers to anyone who wants to learn more. I think it's wonderful that she does that.

Anyway, like I said, I don't mean anything negative by posting this and hopefully it doesn't p*ss anyone off. It's just my POV from a non-CND using tech.

Michele

 

[Jeni Giles]

The topic of this thread is posed to me each and every new class, Which product is your favorite? My answer, which ever product I have obtained training and am able to follow the manufacturer's directions with out fail. This really irritates the students however.

The point here is NO MATTER which product you choose, if you follow your manufacturer's guidelines for that product, it will be your favorite product. Sometimes the things we use in school we think are crap because we are just learning and don't have the appropriate skills for top product performance. Our students are fortunate because they have a vast array of product to choose from so that they can decide what they like best.

I will be one of the first to admit that I am an education junkie and will attend any and every class that I can, watch all the videos no matter who made them, visit web sites, read books and trade magazines, but the choice still comes down to what I do best.

I can't say I really have a favorite, but when I do my own it's usually Ez flow or CND- sculpting or tipping, for me they both wear the same, it's a matter of if I want a regular french manicure or glitter. I will say that we do use mostly CND even though they have acess to almost everything (no azkents, NSI or Young nails because there are no distributors in the area and shipping is too costly when you are just ordering a sample or two) but most everything else, they can try while they are here and have support, after that what they choose is up to them.

 

[bengalkat]

Jeni,
Good for you! I think every state should require CEU but they don't. I think education is so important even after you're licensed. Many don't agree. In my opinion, once you feel like you 'know it all' you need to find a new profession.
Michele
P.S. Where is Chubbuck?

 

[PaintedLady211]

When you go into sally's....have yopu ever noticed the Contours brand???? THAT is CND. The address on the packaging is actually the CND addy in Vista.
I think what we mean here as over the counter is that any student or tech can walk in almost any beauty supply in any town and buy CND products. You can not do that with Tammy Taylor. We even have CND in many drug stores here in the U.S.
Mary

 

[HeatherDavis]

Is it just me or is this thread getting a little BASHLICIOUS??

Bengal, you and every other tech are allowed to disagree with anyone on anything on this site- its called an OPINION. We are all allowed to have them-

WHat I am noticing in this thread is a very DEFENSIVE theme, and for every comment I have read about being upset about being bashed for your preferred product line, two lines down its bashing right back.

I myself am an exclusive CND user after 10 years in this business in the US.
I do not shove my views down others throats, geeks in general know what I like to use because I DECLARE IT PROUDLY. I saw a post in this thread remarking how when they used CND they experienced bubbles, craking, lifting, yellowing etc., then also said that bad production was the TECH not the PRODUCT. Lets stick to that and just talk about WHAT we love, and WHY we love it, and not go on about what we think sucks. It ruins the constructive theme meant for this thread. I am not in the business of bashing other companies that I feel are inferior- I don't know enough about them to judge. I only know what I know about the product I have chosen, and I choose to know alot ABOUT that product. No offense anywhere, I just really feel that everyone reading and posting in this thread needs to change the tone of it a bit- I am as guilty of this as anyone, I apologize for my part-
As Samantha already said, this site is not LEANING towards CND. It just HAPPENS to have a lot of CND techs on it. This isnt some version of the "Stepford Techs," Its just a great place to share info with others as passionate as you are about your chosen career. If you dont have anything against CND, then please dont make negative comments about those related to them in different ways.

Mary, when you go into Sally Beauty SUpply, you will notice that there are TONS of products that are by Professional companies- these are the lesser quality, easy-for-the-public-to-use versions of the products we are trained to use. They are usually safer, less quality products for those looking to play without training. It doesnt mean that the product is the same- just maybe manufactured in the same place. ALso remember that sometimes big companies in big buildings RENT OUT SPACE to smaller companies looking for some of the same utilities for something COMPLETELY different.I would also like to know exactly which drug stores give you the option of purchasing professional CND products- If you know for a fact that thats happening, you should call CND and REPORT them.

Thats another thing I want to stress to all of you- if you are getting products where you SHOULDNT be getting them- thats the fault of the WHOLESALE SUPPLIER. Not the MANUFACTURER. They cant police everything and everyone, and if no one is telling them whats up, then how can they be blamed for that? I have never seen TT sold publicly- I actually have only ever seen TT at trade shows actually. I have only seen CND Products at Supply houses selling only to licensed professionals, even in states where it isnt required to work with a license.

I think we may have some communication issues here in this thread as well lol- I want to make sure we all agree on "terms"-

As far as I understood, over the counter means you can buy it in public-consumer markets like the drug store, grocery store, open-to-public beauty supply houses like Sally Beauty SUpply- does everyone agree?

otherwise, professional product should only be purchased in a Wholesale Beauty Supply selling only to licensed techs. And by professional, I mean quality nail systems that you would use in a salon, not the watered down version you see in the retail "open to the public" supply.

Now.

CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!?!??!

You know how when a group of women are around each other consistently they all "sync up" cycle wise? I think we are all cycling right now :smack:.

Lotsa drama lately- dont make me put tampons up my nose and do a jig. :smack:

Everybody sit on their hands- and lets all agree that if we cant say something nice, DONT TYPE.

Happy rambling...

 

[bengalkat]

I am not bashing anyone. If you read my posts I say that specifically. Yes, you are absolutely correct. You have the right to choose whatever product you want, just as I do and everyone else does. I have NO problem whatsoever with that.

You're contradicting yourself though. You say this...

I myself am an exclusive CND user after 10 years in this business in the US.
I do not shove my views down others throats, geeks in general know what I like to use because I DECLARE IT PROUDLY.

But in your first post you said this...

I agree- I loooove Creative, and will be the first one to shove it on you


Shove away but why not just give your OPINION instead of shoving it on someone?

I'm not here to fight.

Michele

 

[HeatherDavis]

I am not bashing anyone. If you read my posts I say that specifically. Yes, you are absolutely correct. You have the right to choose whatever product you want, just as I do and everyone else does. I have NO problem whatsoever with that.

You're contradicting yourself though. You say this...

I myself am an exclusive CND user after 10 years in this business in the US.
I do not shove my views down others throats, geeks in general know what I like to use because I DECLARE IT PROUDLY.

But in your first post you said this...

I agree- I loooove Creative, and will be the first one to shove it on you


Shove away but why not just give your OPINION instead of shoving it on someone?

I'm not here to fight.

Michele

Michele I am not here to fight either- I know I have never conversed with you, so you are not familiar with me at all. A comment like that is a TEASE. I sometimes hate posting like this, you cant actually HEAR my tone, or tell if someone is serious or not.

I also said that I was as guilty of the offending transactions as everyone else, and I apologized.

Hope this clarifies- I am not trying to be offensive and contradicting- I am sometimes trying to just lighten things up- looks like I need practice.

 

[bengalkat]

Point taken. It's not always easy to get a specific tone across when posting like this on the 'net.

Michele

 

[HeatherDavis]

Thank you-

and just to make sure I am being purely diplomatic- I have been sitting here watching the TT how-to videos- and I have some questions!! Are any of you TT Educators or close to it?

 

[Sassy Hassy]

Bengalcat, PLEASE PLEASE don't say the above. If this board leans heavily to wards Creative, it is because many people who use it are on here but trust me when I say that my husband has worked incredibly hard to create a site for ANY nail tek no matter what product line they use. He is a Creative Ambassador and the advice we give is proven fact and not opinion... but at the end of the day... no matter how many times we have asked heads of companies etc to come onto the site to help THEIR customers... it is still really the same people doing the help... and like it or not those who give up their time for free, are CND.

I am the distributor for CND in the UK... but I would happily (and have done 100000 times) give my help to anyone who needs it and I do not ram CND down their throats when I do.

Sorry to go on, but I just get so frustrated by these comments.
Respectfully Yours

Well I can back this up as I was very frustrated when LCN cancelled a course for competition training. I went to Mrs G and asked her for some advice on what my next move would be as I am a very loyal person and didn't just want to jump ship to another brand. Anyway the advice Mrs G gave me was you don't have to jump ship you can use BOTH!!!!!! I actually admired this response, and it hadn't even occurred to me. However my clients love Brisa more and they actually made the choice for me to use more Creative products than LCN ... but i still do use both and I sill prefer a few products by LCN over Creative ... and nothing beats my pro pusher from EZ Flow!

But choosing your brand is such a PERSONAL choice that really you need to try them for yourself and decide what works for YOU. I will never knock someone's brand of choice .... well except our lovely DIY Rio kits - THEY SUCK!!!!

 

[HeatherDavis]

I will never knock someone's brand of choice .... well except our lovely DIY Rio kits - THEY SUCK!!!!

ROFLMAO!!!

Tell me how you REALLY feel.

 

[bengalkat]

I'm not at this time but would like to work towards it. You can always email Tammy and she will email you back. I hope that helps.
Michele

 

[leah82]

Bengalcat, PLEASE PLEASE don't say the above. If this board leans heavily to wards Creative, it is because many people who use it are on here but trust me when I say that my husband has worked incredibly hard to create a site for ANY nail tek no matter what product line they use. He is a Creative Ambassador and the advice we give is proven fact and not opinion... but at the end of the day... no matter how many times we have asked heads of companies etc to come onto the site to help THEIR customers... it is still really the same people doing the help... and like it or not those who give up their time for free, are CND.

I am the distributor for CND in the UK... but I would happily (and have done 100000 times) give my help to anyone who needs it and I do not ram CND down their throats when I do.

Sorry to go on, but I just get so frustrated by these comments.
Respectfully Yours

It really is a shame that other companies won't come on here & help though as I'm not trained with creative & so really alot of the products talked about on here I don't use. You'd think they'd realise it would benefit the companies. :irked:
But can't thank Sam enough for this site as without it I wouldn't have become what I am today!! THANKYOU.

 

[HeatherDavis]

I'm not at this time but would like to work towards it. You can always email Tammy and she will email you back. I hope that helps.
Michele

Thanks Bengal!! I actually DID email her right after, havent heard back just yet- but thanks again

BTW- is your username the same on BeautyTech? I think I've seen photos of your shop- very nice...

 

[bengalkat]

Yep, same name there. I guess I could get creative and use a different name once in a while but I love my bengal kitties. LOL Thanks! The shop is pretty small but it works. It's cozy.
Hope you hear back from her soon. What are you needing to know?
Michele

 

[Marlise]

Hi,

Curiosity got the better of me and I had a look at some of the TT videos.

I don't know if it's just me, but I could barely hear what she was saying and I had my speakers turned up full volume..... have I done something wrong ?

I had a look at the "how to sculp a nail on a nail biter video" which I found interesting, but was concerned about the amount of times her brush touched the surrounding skin of the nail. Would this not be classed as over exposure ? There also didn't seem to be a lot of "patting" of the pink L&P to get it nicely into the sides etc, but just general brush strokes.

This is not a criticism, but honest questions. I've never see product applied like that before and was just wondering.

I've attached the link for you.

Tammy Taylor Nail-Biter video


Marlise

 

[ValencianNails]

This should probably be a whole different thread, but here goes... I wasn't going to reply but I watched the video and I'm shocked so felt compelled to reply, not only regarding the overexposure issue but using a 100 grit on the natural nail, and not just once, but many times

How many layers of nail plate would have been removed?
Is that considered to be prep?
Is that the only prep?

I'm not knocking TT as a brand, but I'm genuinely interested on the above questions.

 

[Sassy Hassy]

Well for me I would never give a nail biter long nails like that, it's a recipe for disaster. They'd never cope with them and be bashing and picking them off. And sorry but waaay to thick for my liking. But hey if it floats your boat then who am I to argue ... we all have different tastes, just that style is defo not mine.

 

[preciousfa02]

I'm a fairly new TT user and after wacthing several videos she "lightly" etches the nails with a 100 grit file just to remove the shine. When I was taugt in school, we had to etch the nail with a 180 grit file. After reading several threads here I now know it should be 240. I've used her products 3 times and its a very wet consistency. I never use my brush to clean around the cuticle, but I thought of the same thing watching her video