What do you think of mineral make up?

[kylieb]

Personally i'm not a fan. I have oily skin and even on me it feels horrible!! I hate to say it but I love body shop make-up. I just think it feels like your wearing nothing. I have to use Jane iredale at work and I just cant get on with it.
You could always go and get your make up done in a salon and see what you think for yourself xxx

 

[rysla]

I have really bad open pores on my cheeks and have yet to find one that doesn't make them scream out at you! Have tried i.d and jane iredale. Anyone have any recommendations please. (I like quite a good coverage!) thanks!

 

[Helen Geerie]

Hi essentia, I dont think it has much to do with the size of the particles I just think its the application and taking your time with your clients to show them how it should be applied. I agree there are different levels of minerals out there and most I found after looking around still contain either talc or bismuth oxycholride which will give a horrible finish. I dont think much of liquid mineral foundations either, we decided to go down the purest route as we apply it after some new treatments we have recently taken on, i did look at the jane Iredale ingredients and on the bottom of the liquid mineral it said "may contain minerlas"! There was a long list of other ingredients before this. In short we take longer teaching our clients how to get the look they want and they love this, we actually do really well selling make overs and our range retails very well, better than i thought. I think we have a gap in our area for sorting out ladies make up cases as we get at least 8 -10 referals a week. We have only had one lady come back as she couldn't get the hang of it but we spent more time with her and now she loves it. But mineral make up os definately a lot different for some people.

 

[essentia]

Hi essentia, I dont think it has much to do with the size of the particles I just think its the application and taking your time with your clients to show them how it should be applied. I agree there are different levels of minerals out there and most I found after looking around still contain either talc or bismuth oxycholride which will give a horrible finish. I dont think much of liquid mineral foundations either, we decided to go down the purest route as we apply it after some new treatments we have recently taken on, i did look at the jane Iredale ingredients and on the bottom of the liquid mineral it said "may contain minerlas"! There was a long list of other ingredients before this. In short we take longer teaching our clients how to get the look they want and they love this, we actually do really well selling make overs and our range retails very well, better than i thought. I think we have a gap in our area for sorting out ladies make up cases as we get at least 8 -10 referals a week. We have only had one lady come back as she couldn't get the hang of it but we spent more time with her and now she loves it. But mineral make up os definately a lot different for some people.

Hi Helen, Thanks for the reply. I have Nimue mineral makeup and the liquid is great - however they only do 4 shades, so not much choice. I also understand they will no longer do them in the UK, so I am looking for another brand. I will wait and see the JI rep and make up my mind. I have sent for info for a few other companies as well. 8-10 referrals a week are a lot so you must be on to something there! How much do you charge for this service if you don't mind telling? :hug:

 

[Helen Geerie]

We charge £25 for the session and if they buy over £100 of minerals then we give it them free. We have found ladies are buying it for their friends as gifts so we have a voucher for it. With our range we didn't initially hold stock but then found we needed to, the company are great and even sent us a report of orders we have placed so i could get to grips with what to hold. I started with about £350 worth of stock hold i now hold about £600 in at any time but i'm still finding i have to order at least once a week. Two of my girls love doing these make overs and the range so that helps an awful lot. The lady who owns the company has a very good saying and i'm sure she wont mind me repeating her but we are not Boots and ladies buy make up even when shopping at the supermarkets now so we have to create the demand before our clients realise they need it. We find applying after treatments is extremely helpful to sales too. I do a lot of networking and i now find i'm called the make up lady which i dont mind at all. I really dont like liquid minerals though, i do have to say, i think they are sheep in wolf's clothing and to be honest one liquid to another your clients will find it much harder to leave the brand you sell them if they get the coverage they love but from a powder, there are too many liquids out there to compete. We create an experience for our ladies and with me having hair too we sometimes incorporate that as part of the advice.

I've gone on a bit sorry, but you really do need to think if make up is going to sell how will you do it and is the range and i think the colours good enough. I just find JI range a bit beige but that is just my taste. Gosh i hope this has been helpful.:hug:

 

[Zingara]

I did, thought I must be doing it wrong!! I, too, really wanted to love mineral makeup and thought that i.d would be the best.

Also, I heard (maybe an urban myth) that brides should not wear mineral makeup on their big day as when the photos are developed, their faces are un-naturally white. Anyone else heard of this?

It will only look white on the photographs if the make up has light reflective particals in it. It will reflect the camera flash, hence looking white!!! I always use something matte!

Actually, all mineral make-up does have the potential to cause this problem, but if you know how to use it properly, then it can be avoided.

Pretty much all mineral foundations contain Titanium Dioxide which forms the white colour pigment and SPF element of the powder. However Titanium Dioxide is also extremely high on the refractive index...meaning it is very reflective. Only surpassed by very few other materials. It is often used for coatings in mirrors etc. It is also a very gentle product for use on the skin, is very low on the reactive scale, and will provide a beautiful, flattering, soft focus effect, as the amount of refective particles bounce the light back off the face in many different directions. Much the same way as reflective primers and bases such as Clarins Beauty Flash balm does.

Therefore if you apply mineral foundation, and aim a flash photography camera direct at the face, then yes, you run the risk of a 'white-out'...the ghost like appearance.

However, mineral finishing powders are usually manufactured without Titanium Dioxide to minimise this effect, and to reduce shine, so in effect the use of a finishing powder, as should always be advised with mineral make-up, will ensure that the white-out effect doesn't happen!

 

[ArtdecoCouture]

I understand your point but if that happens you have the world's worst photographer shooting point blank head on and that will whiteout anything.

The photographs at the end of this link to Lesley Garretts website, done for her last album by us were mineral. Lesley Garrett's Gallery Pages

I think you will agree she looks fabulous.

Good training, good product will give you a great result.

Minerals have their place in the world of makeup, not the answer to everything but a superb resource.

 

[essentia]

Your mineral range looks lovely - I will be getting in touch!

 

[toddtw]

Mineral makeup is in fact the most perfect makeup there is. i have been working exclusively with mineral makeup since 1994. I have worked with every major line out there. Some people say that it enhances wrinkles but that is only true with the 2 major mineral lines. The ingredient that causes that is Bismuth Oxychloride. I shine that this ingredient gives is so intense, it actually makes your skin look ghostly in photographs. Some of the big companies have replaced Bismuth with Boron Nitride. Regardless, its all in the application. Stay away from those Mineral lines that pride themselves on having the fewest ingredients as well as those that have ingredients that just don't belong in mineral makeup. Also, mineral makeup is not that expensive. If you pay more than $15.00 for 9gr of foundation, you're being ripped off. I'm working with an awesome mineral makeup manufacturer. We're launching a 9gr jar for $10.00 at our non-profit salon.

hi

What does everyone think of mineral make up? ive never tried it before and just want to know does it give better coverage than a liquid foundation and is it good for people with blemishes, redness, broken capillaries etc...

 

[ArtdecoCouture]

hi



What does everyone think of mineral make up? ive never tried it before and just want to know does it give better coverage than a liquid foundation and is it good for people with blemishes, redness, broken capillaries etc...

I think this is a better answer to your question?

Minerals has it's place. A triple milled mineral with high quality brushes works brilliantly for younger skin. Applied professionally it works as well for mature skin. Look for a mineral range that also does a full range including liquid mineral products, lipsticks, lipliners, eye pens etc. For a youthful bride with good skin, minerals make it easy to provide a "natural" look that is in favour.

The Artdeco company added liquids and baked eye shadows to satisfy the need for "mineral" with traditional application methods.

With damaged skin a natural skin base will work under a high quality liquid, better still is proper camouflage makeup that stays on all day, is waterproof and can be applied very thinly.

A makeup range that is bought to use professionally will have a camouflage selection.

I think there is general confusion that general retail products are the same as professional based products.

It is no different than other beauty and nail products, you get what you pay for.