Hot wax

[nail_star2003]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that it wasn't better (I wasn't born til 1980 :wink2. All i was trying to say is that I personally don't feel that they have moved with the industry as in the original comment re hot wax.

Sorry if I offended anyone :smack: It wasn't my intention! x

 

[redsadie]

I only trained in waxing in July this year not with a college though. We trained with warm wax and although I like it, I wanted to use the non strip as I too from here had heard it was great.

When I told the instructor about using oil under wax instead of talc, she looked at me as if I was from Mars and said, "but that'll stop the wax from sticking, do it with the talc and you won't go wrong"!

Needless to say I didn't take her advice and I use oil under wax. I actually paid for this info and 'advice' too

xx

 

[Princessstacie]

I only trained in waxing in July this year not with a college though. We trained with warm wax and although I like it, I wanted to use the non strip as I too from here had heard it was great.

When I told the instructor about using oil under wax instead of talc, she looked at me as if I was from Mars and said, "but that'll stop the wax from sticking, do it with the talc and you won't go wrong"!

Needless to say I didn't take her advice and I use oil under wax. I actually paid for this info and 'advice' too

xx

When i did my course i also said about using oil and the trainer said it was only used for hot wax?
Health and safety regulations now are saying that we are not allowed to use talc as it can be breathed in and cause health problems!
I have tried hot wax and liked using it. However i would prefer to do another course so i am more confident in it. xxx

 

[Victorialyce]

In Australia i was taught with hot wax and i would refuse to apply strip wax anywhere on the face or any "delicate areas", i have had strip wax applied to my eye brows and upper lip and it ripped the first few layers of my skin off and had scabs! oh my god i was horrified, never never never would i ever use strip wax anywhere but the legs, arms, back, chest etc.

Although perhaps alot of people out there are more experienced with strip wax, i have never seen anyone in aus use it on any delicate skin. youch!

 

[essentia]

Hi - Have to also agree with gillian w here about training and using hot wax. The younger tutors have probably been taught through the the nvq system which unfortunately does not appear to be so thorough. The only exam I took in waxing was using hot wax. Strip wax was used throughout the course but was tutor assessed. Hot wax was the daddy.

The old city and guilds and other diplomas were taught full time and not 2 days/afternoons a week. Other parts of our curriculum included art lessons to appreciate colour, facial proportions, science included not only A&P but wiring plugs and looking after your electrical beauty equipment etc, etc. We need to incorporate new techniques with the old fashioned training.

 

[Gee]

My tutor was probably one of the ones that went straight into teaching, but the other is my age (30) and has worked in the industry for at least 8 years so I would have expected her to have a bit of knowledge on hot wax.

I think its pretty awful that these people who are supposed to be preparing us for working in the industry aren't keeping up to date with what's going on out there themselves.

I agree about the comments about girls qualifying from college that can't apply polish, a few weeks ago I was with a client at college and she gave me a horror story about a girl from last year who have her a facial and exfoliated her eyelids! I'm suprised this woman came back to the college. The girl in question is now a qualified beauty therapist but did actually get kicked off level 3! Thank god!

x
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[Kim Lawless]

So how do these therapists pass their exams then?

 

[gillian w]

So how do these therapists pass their exams then?

From what i can make out , and id love to hear if i'm wrong ,they just get continually assesed they dont take any actual pratical exams as such,so one day they may get it right and thats a tick in the box ,till eventually everythings ticked so thats a pass.They are assessed by who teaches them so its not a good reflection on the tutor or the college if she doesn't pass them.

I don't think at anytime they are assessed from anyone outside who would judge them on their whole treatment at one time and who would be continually watching them ie consultation, prep, wax,aftercare advice.

I agree with continual assessments but i also think someone needs to make the final decision as to whether they can actually wax or not.Some may say this is unfair because many people crack under exam conditions but you would know yourself Kim whether what someones doing was because they were just nervous or whether its because they just haven't a clue and haven't been taught properly and good examiners are the same.

With regard to intimate waxing i personally do not feel it should be taught in college because i think you need to be an experienced waxer to do it and i dont think it should be lumped together as a general waxing pass.I do think it needs to be taught entirely separately to those who have the initial wax training and as a separate course and certificate.Its not just the technique and the waxing its about the whole process and i think you need some experience behind you.

I can get insurance with my company having never done any training in intimate waxing at all apart from watching wbow and i feel this is wrong.
Maybe trainers and insurers need to look at waxing in a similar way that they do nails and you have to progress ie Foundation,strip wax,hot wax,intimate.I know for much of this you would have to pay on top of what you know but it would sort out the good from the bad and the ones that arn't so serious about the job and are constantly ripping peoples skin to pieces they would either give up or be better trained.

 

[Gee]

yes this is how we were/are assessed, a lot of people pass that quite frankly shouldn't. It annoyed me that i gained the same qualification after putting so much into it as those that didn't put anything in.

There is an internal and external verifier that make sure things are running as they should be but this isn't a true reflection on how all the students are progressing.

I do agree with having practical exams, even though i am one of those that crack under exam conditions. But even for those that do crack i think its easy to see when someone's making a mistake because they are nervous or if its because they have no idea about what they are doing.

I also agree with you that intimate waxing should NOT be done at college, the thought terrifies me!

Sarah x