"I like what I use"

[parkyojin]

i agree with stevenson_s. The people are so helpful and kind. I don't feel like I'm on the "out" with everyone here just because I don't use the same products. We all have something in common here, we all love what we do, and that's the most important thing.

 

[mui]

Nonacrylicgel sawasdee ka

In my country Nail buisness is at the start but will boom because we have Thai lady likes nail extension and a big number of foriegn visitors .

Now in Thailand there are many many nail salons open all the time and in the big super centres that have 14 screen cinamas you will have 2 3 4 or 5 nail salons competiton for the customers is service and being able to offer the best quality products that the customers like .

In Thailand we now are nearly all using l&p some fiber glass and few gel because the educators have choose this system to teach here first l&p.

Ezflow is the number 1 company in Thailand now because they have sent educators to my country and in june this year they are sending from America demonstrators to the nail and beauty show in Thailand we already have demonstrators from europe come here ezflow have nail school ,

Some salons are using the creative system because it has a good name in my country that has come from japan where ezflow creative and tammy taylor products every body and magazine speak is good .

In japan l&p is the main system that is used but in singapore the system that is used is gel 90 percent customers want this i know for sure .

In Thailand we have a population of 60 million Thai people and on only my island phuket population 300000 we have in january this year 520000 visitor come from another country .

What i am trying to speak is there is a country here that will welcome good quality education and products with gel you can be the first .

My country have import into Thailand by companys jan to sept last year 1.8 billion american dollar of cosmetics by the big companys clear customs .

We will welcome and try to help any comnpany that comes to Thailand with good heart it will be good for create jobs and future in my country .

 

[LyddieB]

NonAcrylicGel,

You are having a wind up!!!! Just because a business is home based does not mean it is not a business. Perhaps the home based salons are smarter than the high street shops. No extortionate rent, no rediculously priced council tax bills, no extra heat & energy bills, etc. My husband owns/runs a high street based business and he pays out over £2000 a month just to keep the door open.

If home based techs are skilled and experienced enough to be making money, have loyal customers and freedom in thier business place then what is wrong with that. Maybe the home based techs wouldn't want such a small minded customer as yourself at thier table preaching thier views and when they are not agreed with having them rammed down thier throats so I say BRAVO to the brave home based techs who do not rely on walk past clients, and who build up clientelle and enjoy thier work.

BRAVO all home based techs, and small mindedness is what will keep this industry small. Way back when, there were no NVQ's when nails started up it was just something someone else taught you that was taught to them etc. Thank gosh we are now trying to become educated and skilled, just because someone dosent have thier NVQ dosen't mean they are not good techs!!!!! I would rather go to a 10 year veteran, than a fresshie straight out of the college doors! I have been to a college salon and the degree of competency was so low I was astonished. (and she was about to take her exam!!) So lets express our opinions, i.e., have freedom of speech, but along with that comes difference of opinion, so how about LAYING OFF!

Just my 2 pence worth.

Lyd

 

[mui]

Nonacrylicgel sawasdee ka

You can pm me if you want to know any more about what i speak for a company to come to Thailand open up the whole of asia to them if good product and education .

I just speak 1 thing i dont like :twisted: i like this .

So you speak good na ka .

Mui from Thailand

 

[nail_star2003]

Right, well I think I would like to add my point.

Firstly, nonacrylicgel, I am a home based tech. I have an extension at the back of my home where I work from. My 'salon' if you like. I retail products for my clients that I have invested in. Some are creative and some are other brands. I work from home as I have a young child and it suits me to work this way. Yes, I used to work from my front room but it was the money from this that helped me have an extension built. Quite a good business investment if you ask me.

My clients thought no less of me because I was working from my front room as I wouldn't still have the same clientele, which I do. The liked the service I gave as well as the products I use (which I must add at the time was not cnd). I have gained my NVQ Unit 19 which I'm sure, as a professional nail technician, you know is non-product biased. I did use cnd for my l&p sets but I used another brand of gel (not yours I might add!). It is not because I dislike cnd's gel but the fact that I am happy with the gel I have always used. They give me good support and back up so I feel that I don't need to change. I'm sure you'll agree with me here.

As you think that most of the technicians on here have been brainwashed by certain people I think you are totally misunderstood. I couldn't care less whether these people work for cnd or any other company. I come on this site because I like them as people. No matter how busy they may be they always have time to speak to anyone. Whether it be a question or just for a quick chat. Quite honestly, this goes quite a long way with me.

As for cnd's products, yes, I have to say they do work for me. They may not work for everyone and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. When people on here are advised to go on a creative course you will see, if you look back, that it is the technicians themselves who are advising this and not 'the powers that be' as you put it. Therefore, it goes to show that us, the technicians, whether home based or not, were happy with the product AND service we got on our course.

 

[naturalnails]

I see the beauty industry as part of the caring profession like nurses etc. Unlike solicitors, bankers, stock brokers, estate agents etc. most of us are not in it purely to make money and hang the clients.

I think you should credit professional nail technicians with a brain and the nouse to use it.

You say this is a propaganda site where freedom of speech is not allowed - well if this was the case then why has NAG not been banned. If this was purely a CND site then anyone who does not have Retention+ running through their veins would not be allowed. Is this the case?

It is about freedom of choice and there is always a risk that if you change all of your computers to Apples based on promises of great wealth and improved business - what if they all crash. I say it is better to stick with the products and service that give you value for money rather than risk our business on promises!

By coming on here to stir the pot you may have got us all talking and thinking about your company but do you think it is in a positive way ?

Please credit nail technicians with a bit of respect - we are not airheads being led by the nose - we make our choices based on business sense - not just because Sam looks cute LOL.

 

[naturalnails]

......
Nails hasn't even got a seperate yellow pages listing, that is a pretty good measure of how we are percieved as an indusrty!

So how do WE change this!

It does - as of June 2004

 

[Mrs Geek]

i agree with stevenson_s. The people are so helpful and kind. I don't feel like I'm on the "out" with everyone here just because I don't use the same products. We all have something in common here, we all love what we do, and that's the most important thing.

I would like to thank Paryojin for this positive post but I also feel NOW that I have to make other comments.

I visited and relised that this site that was signposted non-product related only seems to be talking about one product and the posters were signed off as mostly cnd......so I thought freedom of speech or propoganda site????

Ask Antony Buckley (EZFlow) about freedom of speech on this board. I have infact spoken to Grafton, NSI and OPI about having one of their educators represent their brand so that they could answer their brand related questions - they all said 'what a great idea' but as far as I am aware, none have yet done so - THEY WERE ASKED though and THAT is the main thing! Then we have the companies that have logged on and blatently tried to sell their goods quoting prices etc...this is not a forum for that type of post - they can have their own sites if that is ALL they are interested in.
We however are here and the advice we give is free and given positively, openly and passionately!! Most in the industry know who I represent but they can always look up my profile just like we can look at yours ! What HAS happened is that many have come on this site for help and have received it from a member who is CND related which has peeked their interest into the products. (if you got answers that worked from someone, your interest would be peeked too). If I am asked about a specific CND related product then I will of course answer it, but generally I try to PM when it becomes more price related info. It is some of the teks on here that are passionate about this brand and have answered some of your questions as to why! I will not justify my passion or love of this brand either but I do try incredibly hard to answer all non-product related questions in a non-product related way!

Well I got freedom of speech....sort off.

Oh I don't think there is any 'sort of' - you have certainly had that....

MAybe i will be little jimminy cricket but I am still surprised that this independant site seems to garner such strong reactions to non CND speak..... but them I enjoy being pilloried on this non-product biased site.....

Even this comment by you is said with sarcastic undertones; you are getting the reactions that you have fought so valliantly to seek!! Imagine if you had joined this site under the nail 'NailWorx' (we will use this as it is in you web address) and you had said something along the lines of 'hey, I am ***** from Nail Worx and I represent Allessandro in the UK. I would be really pleased to help anyone on this site who uses this product or who has experienced any problems' Let's imagine the type of reaction that THESE nail teks would have given you - most are women and their natural reaction is to be warm and welcoming. There are many on here that I have NEVER met but you do get to know people and their personalities by their posts; I certainly think some of these teks now have an opinion of you due to the nature of how you post!

...if we are all so independent why do we sign off so strongly and mention the brand names in like every other thread???? maybe I'm the dumb one...????

The nail teks do this for one simple reason - THEY LOVE THE BRAND and for all reasons they stated to you in earlier posts - there are also plenty who prefer other brands - see 'Love OPI' & OPI Nails!! I am quite sure that if your own brand had the same reaction, maybe you yourself would not be experiencing the negative reactions you omit to all:idea:

But honestly, if you want to state that this is a pure geek site then what's so wrong with my thoughts and opinions; they are as valid as everyone elses - aren't they. Why are they such a "wind-up" if everyone here is open minded and wanting to improve their and mine profession....

There is nothing wrong with your opinions or anyone elses; we do try very hard however not to 'put down' any competition - you appear to spend your time on lecturing why L+P is on it's way out etc - can you not see that this is hardly going to bode well when so many teks on this site are L+P users - can you not see that they might (just might) get a little offended - especially as this is pure propaganda
Food for thought....maybe

 

[lilypond]

Well said Mrs Geek
I use and love IBD gel plus not so well known products
but I love this site and have always made to feel part of the site
and when I have asked questions about Nail Tech issues
the response has been great

Thanks for the site

Jill :lol:

 

[nonacrylicgel]

Will the real "geek" stand up and take a bow.

The Tobacco Compnaies did a fantastic PR as well.....everyone believed, at first, how nice and how good they were and how altruistic.....

From your beloved Head Geek who does this site purely for the love of nails and with no commercial motive

Quote " I assume I am supposed to take this as sarcasm. If this is the case, piss off and dont come back. I havent busted ass for something for nail technicians so you can come sit on your ass and take the piss.

if you want a ban... I am more than happy to provide. Either be constructive to the members or go make your own site where I am sure countless will flock to witness your talent and wit.

Take care






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The Nail Geek "​

This site, pure propaganda! and now you know it because here's the real personality!​

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[Dawnie]

nonacrylicgel wrote

(I see home use as merely the "incubation" stage for tech's to move into commerciality and into the high street.......)

Have you ever given thought to disability............no of course you haven’t!!!!!!!!!!! I am home based as I am deaf and I think I have the right to add that I am dam good at my job.........the reason I am home based is not for as you put it "incubation stage" its the simple reason that it suits my needs better and my clients as I have everything adapted to meet my needs at home .....as well as my hearing dog that needs to be with me to alert me to sounds, so you see you don’t SEE correct.

Dawnie

 

[mui]

sawasdee ka Nonacrylicgel

For your notes this web site is a life saver for trouble shooting any problems for me and many techs from around the world and it has so much teaching it is also very friendly site where people give there time and advice there is always some body to help and it is free . .

Yes there are many cnd techs come here but if you look through the post many many are friends online and meet at shows and outside work .

Cnd products haver never been pushed on me it is the other way round i have wanted them in Thailand for a long time but could not have them i and my friends have not done course or conversion we paid another company 2400 american dollar for products because they would sell to us .

It does not matter what products you use if you need help you can come to this web site .

Not only have i had many many many post put here from people about nails but personal life good wish of having my baby and birthday i feel i have many special friend here i have had many pm and personal emails and magazines sent to me .

I have make many friends here in this web site and feel i know lots of them but have never meet anyone .

I am making some silly mistake when i read earlier i think b4 you were being nice but now it seem you are not i can not think why .

If you look names and profiles you will see many people from over the world Thailand mexico japan canada many parts of america not only england and you will see that they use many different products not all cnd but come here for look the web site .

This website with beautytech is there for us and all the future students and experienced techs that want to come look about nails .

And unbeliveable it is free .

Mui from Thailand

 

[debbienailz]

Will the real "geek" stand up and take a bow.

The Nazi's did fantastic PR as well.....everyone believed, at first, how nice and how good they were and how altruistic.....

From your beloved Head Geek who does this site purel for the love of nails and with no commercial motive

Quote " I assume I am supposed to take this as sarcasm. If this is the case, piss off and dont come back. I havent busted ass for something for nail technicians so you can come sit on your ass and take the piss.

if you want a ban... I am more than happy to provide. Either be constructive to the members or go make your own site where I am sure countless will flock to witness your talent and wit.

Take care




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The Nail Geek "​

This site, pure propaganda! and now you know it because here's the real personality!​

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HOW BLOODY DARE YOU!!!

i am sorry if i offend any fellow geeks with the swearing but this 'MAN' has really got my blood boiling .

how dare you associate anyone on this site with the atrocities of the nazi's.you are obviously uneducated on the sufferring of the holocaust victims by the nazi's or you would never have used this comparison

it shows that you have no backbone to have to resort to posting personal pms on this site how sickening

as for altruistic..i think that your right for once

this certainly applies to the people who run this site ..if i'm not mistaken it means unselfish ...and seeing as they provide a service free of charge to many techs from all over the world where we can discuss any problems we may have whatever system we use this is uncertainly altruistic

furthermore i would like to call for a ban on your postings ..if you can only spew drivel at us then we will take it from whence it came

regards
debbie
(sorry again for the swear words ..i hope i will be forgiven this time

)

 

[naturalnails]

Way to go Sam!

You have put up with a lot and I am surprised it took you so long!

Will the real "geek" stand up and take a bow.

The Nazi's did fantastic PR as well.....everyone believed, at first, how nice and how good they were and how altruistic.....

From your beloved Head Geek who does this site purel for the love of nails and with no commercial motive

Quote " I assume I am supposed to take this as sarcasm. If this is the case, piss off and dont come back. I havent busted ass for something for nail technicians so you can come sit on your ass and take the piss.

if you want a ban... I am more than happy to provide. Either be constructive to the members or go make your own site where I am sure countless will flock to witness your talent and wit.

Take care


__________________

The Nail Geek "​

This site, pure propaganda! and now you know it because here's the real personality!​

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[Fab Freak]

My god - is this all a wind up - NO ONE CAN BE SO RUDE to fellow professionals - i'm a right old mixed bag of a mobile techie using Star , OPI and now Creative....I am mobile and professional (Preofssional: meaning expert, specialised, qualified, skilled, trained, practised) which is nothing to do with if you own a ***** salon or not So sod you! this site has helped me no end and it makes no odds which products you use so if you had done youtr research on looking at old post we aren't all CND users but people who love nails and look for help and advice from other like minded PROFESSIONALS......who care whether you use Creative or not so there..

 

[nail_star2003]

Sam, I like your post and I personally think you need to go ahead and ban nonacrylicgel. I know people are entitled to their opinions but we really don't need someone like this here.

Nonacrylicgel, as stated in earlier posts, the 'geeks' on this board use all range of products because they want to and not because it is pushed upon them. I really feel that you are trying to stir something up here and maybe you have your own little agenda going but I can tell you something, watch your back, because what goes around comes around and I for one can only hope it bites you on the ass!! :lol:

Also, do not come on here and be sarcastic about other people about whom you have no knowledge i.e.

Your use of cutting and pasting and web searches just proves my point that you are not the norm. when it comes to computer use.

. Ruth is a very well respected member of this board and she is also a fantastic person as I have actually met her which is something you have not. Please do not be derogatory about any member of this site because there is no need.

When you made your very first post you came on here with an attitude. So what type of response do you expect to get? You are doing your company no good at all by coming on here making such comments but then I guess you probably don't even care. You are getting a rise out of everyone and that is all you've wanted to do from the start.

I feel that we no longer need to make anymore replies to this person and we should let Sam deal with it in his own way.

As for me, I bid you farewell.

 

[chocolate]

Just got 2 points to make as Ruth as said my feeling in a nutshell, (cheers hun savess me typing with 1 finger!)

1) If anyone ever takes my rentention away from me, i will bash them! :twisted:

2) Working from home, well i am an NVQ Assessment centre for City and Guilds, teach nail extension, airbrushing and nail art courses nearly every day, run a very popular nail art mail order company (K-Sa-Ra), employ 6 full and part time staff, have my name in the yellow pages AND ITs ALL DONE FROM MY HOUSE!!!!!

 

[Lellipop]

Thank god that Sam has said to Nonacrylic nails what we all longed to say
I hope this person is no longer going to be in circulation on thi site. Its a sad fact that there are people in this world, who like this person wish to try and upset everyone.
I would personally like to thank all the people on these boards who have helped me Not just with nail related matters, But also personal matters.
To me this show what these people are like, Unlike nag they care for people and value them as individuals.
So i now hope that we never have a person as rude as nag grace these boards again and that we can continue are happy times.

 

[nonacrylicgel]

says it all really!

Just got 2 points to make as Ruth as said my feeling in a nutshell, (cheers hun savess me typing with 1 finger!)

1) If anyone ever takes my rentention away from me, i will bash them! :twisted:

2) Working from home, well i am an NVQ Assessment centre for City and Guilds, teach nail extension, airbrushing and nail art courses nearly every day, run a very popular nail art mail order company (K-Sa-Ra), employ 6 full and part time staff, have my name in the yellow pages AND ITs ALL DONE FROM MY HOUSE!!!!!

 

[nonacrylicgel]

I believe people who are challenged physically are my equals so why would I apply my thinking different. You have an equal right to run a sucessful business as anyone else.

And before you throw the "disability" brick you should be aware of a person's personal circumstances regarding this issue. I make my comments from the inside on this one, not the outside!

nonacrylicgel wrote

(I see home use as merely the "incubation" stage for tech's to move into commerciality and into the high street.......)

Have you ever given thought to disability............no of course you haven’t!!!!!!!!!!! I am home based as I am deaf and I think I have the right to add that I am dam good at my job.........the reason I am home based is not for as you put it "incubation stage" its the simple reason that it suits my needs better and my clients as I have everything adapted to meet my needs at home .....as well as my hearing dog that needs to be with me to alert me to sounds, so you see you don’t SEE correct.

Dawnie