Industry shows

[PinkPotions]

My first show was the one in Edinburgh a few months back and i was disappointed also!

There was a lot of 'junk'.

I was wanting to go to the Manchester show in Edinburgh to see Lori Nestore but as i would be travelling from Scotland i am worried about spending so much to see another sub standard show (although i'm there to see Lori not the stands!)

Hopefully things will change for the better x

* I personally think beauty shows are more aimed at young girls now, as they are filled with bags, glitter, fancy hair clips etc etc It's like a 9yr olds dream day out! *

 

[Vetty]

I know this is controversial, but I think students shouldn't be allowed at the shows - they have no buying power and limited knowledge so they run around getting all excited over sparkly handbags and neon hair extensions! I spent 10 minutes at the OPI stand at Excel listening to one chatter on abour how she'd bought some 'acrylic kit' even though she wasn't learning nails til the following year at college...... I gently pointed out that nail products differ from each other and how she shouldn't apply it without training - do you think she listened ?

The shows should be restricted to decision makers and people with buying power - this would mean they would be smaller and more of the top companies would be there because they are talking to the people with influence and therefor the costs would be smaller........

 

[Doorie]

^good point...

but yeah... a selection of the companies has to be made as well. I saw a few students too who went and bought e-files 1 month before their gel exam, and they were NOT shown it, they were supposed to do it all hand filed, and they all came to the exam with e-file and it was a disaster.
so why the hell would you sell a crappy e-file to students...

 

[angie32]

Can we make a new thread with shows/events that are worth going to? We could save our time and our money by cutting out the rubbish ones. Id be really interested as I am starting a beauty course in Sept and hope to do a nail tech course to ( gotta save a little more first)

I went to Salon International last year with my college and it was pap :irked: I had really been looking forward to going and was really disapointed when I got there so I know where you are coming from.

 

[Doorie]

well, a friend of mine who is in the industry for a while told me the best were...
Bologna, for the nail world, in April
a German one the name just... Dusseldorf it could be (gotta thank the German for their organisation of such things)

but as Gigi said...
go to the Event if you can. or to such Events, I don't know if more happen in your country. here we sometimes do stuff like this... n it's so much fun, too...

but before going to any of these, ask yourself why you wanna go... what you're looking for, and is it the only way?

I found and find more interesting to train around the world and meet many techs, no matter how qualified 8or not) they can be, with all the ppl you always find someone who uses a different system than yours that you can try, same for brushes (I could try a nice 508 in Marseille, along with all Entity, CND's forms and Moxie, Kodi, NFU, Magnetic, to name the first poping in my head)

I don't know for the other cosmetic jobs, beauticians, etc, if such trainings happen, but it was way more interesting than 5 days in Bologna...

 

[Tracey Roberts]

I know this is controversial, but I think students shouldn't be allowed at the shows - they have no buying power and limited knowledge so they run around getting all excited over sparkly handbags and neon hair extensions! I spent 10 minutes at the OPI stand at Excel listening to one chatter on abour how she'd bought some 'acrylic kit' even though she wasn't learning nails til the following year at college...... I gently pointed out that nail products differ from each other and how she shouldn't apply it without training - do you think she listened ?

The shows should be restricted to decision makers and people with buying power - this would mean they would be smaller and more of the top companies would be there because they are talking to the people with influence and therefor the costs would be smaller........

I havent taken this personally,some will I dare say, but its to let you know what I think as a student..

we may not have buying power ? I dont know ?,I havent been to a show before,but would like to, but we still contribute the money from tickets sold for these events to be held, dont we??? unless there free :lol:

As for running around buying handbags & neon hair extensions, :lol: thats not for me as Im 40 now, gone past the stage of neon , and I hate handbags in general..
But I understand the point you are trying to make..

Limited knowledge ? obviously,were learning:!: but you know there are plenty of qualified people,who are still rubbish at what they do, IM NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THESE STATISTICS, I have the passion for it,as I love learning and without blowing my own trumpet,I think I know quite a lot compared to some students of my level,considering I never even touched a polish til sept 07,when I started college.
And Im always reading( alot on this site helps ) and I use L&P on a nail trainer, even though Im not taught it yet, but its all practice and afterall you learn from your mistakes too :!:

I shall be using cnd L&P and brisa at college, this I know is one of,if not the best product on the market,some students should research more of the products they may want to use, thats why they should not be dismissed at shows, they need to learn brands and who is out there,so to speak, they dont get taught it in college,and shows give them the opportunity to find this out..

anyway what is the harm to let students attend? if they want to compulsivly buy, LET THEM,:lol: it only generates more cash for the companies to invest in their products..

A lot of students may not have access to the internet,so trade shows give them the chance to see the different companies/products,they might not otherwise of heard of,if they are new to the trade? like meee:lol:

On a last note, if a student purchases e-files and L&P/gels and uses it on clients without training,then they are fools:!: and should learn or use their sense,Im glad I have a nail trainer to practise on until qualified...

Enough rambling on :lol: Im off for a cuppa :hug: x

 

[Gilly T]

I havent taken this personally,some will I dare say, but its to let you know what I think as a student..

we may not have buying power ? I dont know ?,I havent been to a show before,but would like to, but we still contribute the money from tickets sold for these events to be held, dont we??? unless there free :lol:

As for running around buying handbags & neon hair extensions, :lol: thats not for me as Im 40 now, gone past the stage of neon , and I hate handbags in general..
But I understand the point you are trying to make..

Limited knowledge ? obviously,were learning:!: but you know there are plenty of qualified people,who are still rubbish at what they do, IM NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THESE STATISTICS, I have the passion for it,as I love learning and without blowing my own trumpet,I think I know quite a lot compared to some students of my level,considering I never even touched a polish til sept 07,when I started college.
And Im always reading( alot on this site helps ) and I use L&P on a nail trainer, even though Im not taught it yet, but its all practice and afterall you learn from your mistakes too :!:

I shall be using cnd L&P and brisa at college, this I know is one of,if not the best product on the market,some students should research more of the products they may want to use, thats why they should not be dismissed at shows, they need to learn brands and who is out there,so to speak, they dont get taught it in college,and shows give them the opportunity to find this out..

anyway what is the harm to let students attend? if they want to compulsivly buy, LET THEM,:lol: it only generates more cash for the companies to invest in their products..

A lot of students may not have access to the internet,so trade shows give them the chance to see the different companies/products,they might not otherwise of heard of,if they are new to the trade? like meee:lol:

On a last note, if a student purchases e-files and L&P/gels and uses it on clients without training,then they are fools:!: and should learn or use their sense,Im glad I have a nail trainer to practise on until qualified...

Enough rambling on :lol: Im off for a cuppa :hug: x

I totally agree. As a student of 42 (gulp) I have enough handbags to last me a lifetime and neon hair does not go with my grey.

Like you, I will be looking forward to seeing first hand the wide variety of companies and products that are out there, whether I spend or not. I will learn from my own mistakes

 

[becki x]

I will learn from my own mistakes

This is IMO though part of the problem,exhibitors can't realistically police who they sell to,unless the show is open to professionals only !

By peeps making mistakes (we all do it) it has a detrimental affect on the reputation and standards of our industry,the industry we are constantly striving to improve.

Eg selling an efile to someone who is not trained to use it only contributes to the above IMHO.

I think the best way to stop this would be badges for atendee's which have to be worn stating professional or student,students then get the benefit of the show and are exposed to what's out there in the world of nails without being able to purchase pro products :idea:

 

[RedAdmiral]

I have worked and exhibited at numerous trade shows and they just dont cut it for me anymore - I really only go to Scratch to see the nail olympics and see seminars I dont go to buy as usually theres nothing there. I've been so dissappointed of late as I love to keep learning and my favourite brands are not always there.

I think girls the old fashioned way of roadshows and events really is the way forward and that will get my enthusiasm going.

I hate seeing all the rubbish at shows I want to see icons, professionals n quality products!

 

[RedAdmiral]

This is IMO though part of the problem,exhibitors can't realistically police who they sell to,unless the show is open to professionals only !

By peeps making mistakes (we all do it) it has a detrimental affect on the reputation and standards of our industry,the industry we are constantly striving to improve.

Eg selling an efile to someone who is not trained to use it only contributes to the above IMHO.

I think the best way to stop this would be badges for atendee's which have to be worn stating professional or student,students then get the benefit of the show and are exposed to what's out there in the world of nails without being able to purchase pro products :idea:

No one looks at badges unfortunetly! and it maybe too late for bigger companies who have seen the decline and loss of money by doing these shows the last few years.

 

[becki x]

No one looks at badges unfortunetly! and it maybe too late for bigger companies who have seen the decline and loss of money by doing these shows the last few years.

The thing is hun,atendee's are getting fewer and fewer,at some point the organisers will have to listen,if they want to keep going they have to make changes and enforce a list of regulations for exhibitors.

Maybe if the bar was raised and standards were improved the big ball players would hop back on board ?!?!?!?

 

[Tracey Roberts]

This is IMO though part of the problem,exhibitors can't realistically police who they sell to,unless the show is open to professionals only !

By peeps making mistakes (we all do it) it has a detrimental affect on the reputation and standards of our industry,the industry we are constantly striving to improve.

Eg selling an efile to someone who is not trained to use it only contributes to the above IMHO.

I think the best way to stop this would be badges for atendee's which have to be worn stating professional or student,students then get the benefit of the show and are exposed to what's out there in the world of nails without being able to purchase pro products :idea:

But if students wanted to purchase items for professionals only, then they still can,weather they attend a show or not,from the e? site, so stopping them from proffesional shows is not going to make any difference, afterall, most will became qualified,so I cant see what difference it wil make.

eg,,,Ive been qualified for say a week ? that doesnt make me a proffesional, does it, qualified people can still make terrible mistakes and cause harm to their clients IMO :hug:

 

[becki x]

I even said above hun we all make mistakes,but surely some standards have to be put in place.At least if you have some form of qualification you are LESS likely to do harm,and are educated in what you are using. Yes there willl still be bad qualified tech's,that doesn't mean because they will still exsist they should sell to just anyone,surely .

If peeps want to buy off flea bay we can't stop them that doesn't mean we have to support it. Look at S2 they only sell to professionals,many others should take a leaf IMHO How can we expect progression of our industry when trade shows have the same standards as flea bay sellers for example.

 

[Vetty]

But if students wanted to purchase items for professionals only, then they still can,weather they attend a show or not,from the e? site, so stopping them from proffesional shows is not going to make any difference, afterall, most will became qualified,so I cant see what difference it wil make.

eg,,,Ive been qualified for say a week ? that doesnt make me a proffesional, does it, qualified people can still make terrible mistakes and cause harm to their clients IMO :hug:

It's not about students buying products at shows, it's about making the show attendees the right audience to get the big companies there. Most college students have no choice in which product they use so don't go to shows with the same agenda as a salon owner or tech who runs her own business. I know some of those students will become that tech who runs her own business, but at that point she will attend a show as a decision maker.......

I appreciate your point of view and thank you for putting a students view on my opinion :hug:

 

[becki x]

When you put it like that Vetty i actually agree with you.

Maybe a student only afternoon would be more suitable with demo's etc.just another thought.

Either way,it's got to be better than it is atm

 

[geeg]

The monday of the show was always students day ... most people kept away on that day if given the option! :lol: Sorry students (esp mature students) but it was always a bit of a bun fight!!

 

[Tracey Roberts]

Maybe a student only afternoon would be more suitable with demo's etc.just another thought.

Either way,it's got to be better than it is atm[/quote]

this I agree with, as long as the show organisers dont leave us out completely :cry: then theres no problem,and only to be able to invite,say a spouse,(who else can drive us there :lol: ), no children allowed would be great:lol: as I said Ive never been to a show,so know nothing about them,but I dare say by the time I get to one, Ill definatly be qualified,so it makes no difference to me atm

 

[Doorie]

well believe me, except if your spouse is in the beauty/cosmetic industry, he will NOT enjoy the ride!

 

[bombini]

I don't think students should be stopped from going. Yes it can be annoying but when I think back to when I went to the shows with college I spent more then than I do now !!

Todays students will be tomorrows therapists so I don't think banning them or restricting there times is a good thing.

 

[Doorie]

I don't think students should be stopped from going. Yes it can be annoying but when I think back to when I went to the shows with college I spent more then than I do now !!

Todays students will be tomorrows therapists so I don't think banning them or restricting there times is a good thing.

not all of them will. for me this is the problem. along with thinking that there are other/better ways to buy products/discover new ranges, etc.