PopIts - do u want to make or lose money?

[aliceellen1974]

The majority of NSS don't have brush skills and that's why they use their e-files so much.
They can't create beautiful enhancements with their brushes, hence they won't be able to use Popits as they're intended to be used... I honestly don't think the NSS will be in the picture for much longer if technicians who have the right skills are now able to produce beautiful nails in a lesser time frame.

I understand now! Sorry ValencianNails I have not even seen a popit yet! LOL so i really dont know what is required with regard to the skills needed to use one (all i know is i have finally after 5 years of doing nails feel confident - or fairly confident in the traditional method!) I am sure we can all benefit from them though!

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[beautynails]

If I can do 3 sets of poppits @$70 or even @$60 in the same time as it takes me to do one set of the norm @$100 ...... well, i'm in front, it's all relative as to what you want to charge ..... thats $210 vs $100 . If time is money and you can double (or more) your money in the same time, (even by reducing your full set price)....

Same cost per set, but almost triple the money in the same time + triple the profit + triple the rebookings, you could be booked out doing refills at your original price for refills in less than 3 months ..... thats business acumen and thats expansion.

I think i need to smoke a poppit for it all to make sense.

This makes complete sense to me. You charge less for pop its, but are actually charging more per hour.

 

[*sarah*]

I've still to see the popit's so I'll reserve full judgement till then, the only thing for me is at the moment I'm really still struggling to get more clients, I'm lucky if I have between 2-5 clients a week so to charge less would'nt benefit me at all, and there are no NSS in Dunfermline (well none I know about lol) So going on that I don't think it would be good to reduce my price for popits.

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[Cathie!]

This all makes monetary sense but how do you reduce the rebalancing time so well as the original application time to increase revenue there, surely you still need to file down the old application before applying new?

 

[user 17140]

I've still to see the popit's so I'll reserve full judgement till then, the only thing for me is at the moment I'm really still struggling to get more clients, I'm lucky if I have between 2-5 clients a week so to charge less would'nt benefit me at all, and there are no NSS in Dunfermline (well none I know about lol) So going on that I don't think it would be good to reduce my price for popits.

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I am mobile and not rushed off my feet lol! i am definetly not reducing price, as mine are very competative anyway.I will show popits because i am wearing them now and probably will continue to wear them , so if clients ask i can do one nail for them . My more friendly clients i will be dying to show anyway , they wont mind paying same price because to honest they look nicer than any nails I could do!! And my nails arent that bad but popits are amazing!!

 

[pure]

This all makes monetary sense but how do you reduce the rebalancing time so well as the original application time to increase revenue there, surely you still need to file down the old application before applying new?

I was just sat here thinking the exact same thing!

It's all very well talking about full new sets but I don't often do those, it's almost all reballances. So how long will it take to reballance a set of p&w with the popits and would it be suggested that we also reduce our charges for this service?

 

[sarita]

im glad to see most of you are not goind to lower your prices for popits! why should you, the nails look AMAZING, i bet better than you may be doing now.

hi i have done pink and whites on a lady today who was more than happy to have the popits used on her as she saw how good the nails looked on me. As i am practicing i said give me 25 instead of 30 but she said "no way look how good they are" so you see no one needs to lower prices.

It took me 1 hour 20 mins to do a full set of pink and whites with the popits today but it is my first client using them.

The 30 min application using popits i think is when you are only doing 1 colour, ie. clear or pink only not Pink and whites, they do take longer. I will keep practicing as im sure that time will come down.

She had both her thumb nails on so i did a rebalance on her thumbs only using the popits. I still had to file the nail thinner, removing any product that had lifted and then apply the white smile line first and then fill the popit with pink.

So i will not be lowering my rebalance prices either as it still requires a fair amount of work.

i have taken a picture of the nails, so ill try to "popit" on here soon!

 

[Sassy Hassy]

Ah you see everything is relative. At £25-30 I would say your sets are too low anyway, I used to charge that for a rebalance! So as already said, this should give you an opportunity to UP the prices of your bespoke sets to a more realistic price and charge what is a realistic price for the Poppits! JMHO

 

[blossom]

It's all very well talking about full new sets but I don't often do those, it's almost all reballances. So how long will it take to reballance a set of p&w with the popits and would it be suggested that we also reduce our charges for this service?

Exactly my thoughts. About 5% of my work is new sets. The rest are rebalances. Unless your nails are so bad they keep falling off all the time, why would people keep needing new sets? (and if they were, I'm sure folk wouldn't keep coming back lol)

 

[sarita]

Exactly my thoughts. About 5% of my work is new sets. The rest are rebalances. Unless your nails are so bad they keep falling off all the time, why would people keep needing new sets? (and if they were, I'm sure folk wouldn't keep coming back lol)

oh yes, i totally agree, its not very often i do full sets either but some geeks on here will.

 

[sarita]

Ah you see everything is relative. At £25-30 I would say your sets are too low anyway, I used to charge that for a rebalance! So as already said, this should give you an opportunity to UP the prices of your bespoke sets to a more realistic price and charge what is a realistic price for the Poppits! JMHO

Hi sassy, yes like i said at the beginning prices will obviously vary form area to area and £30 a set is normal here where i live so i wont be dropping passed that!

I will raise the price of bespoke sets, but to be honest i dont think anyone is going to go for that anymore once they see the quality of the new system. Why would people want to pay more for similair or the same nails? My client said they look just as good so she would rather go for the quicker option!
i dont blame her!

So it wouldnt be wise to drop any prices for popits stes or rebalances.

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['chelle]

If I can do 3 sets of poppits @$70 or even @$60 in the same time as it takes me to do one set of the norm @$100 ...... well, i'm in front, it's all relative as to what you want to charge ..... thats $210 vs $100 . If time is money and you can double (or more) your money in the same time, (even by reducing your full set price)....

Same cost per set, but almost triple the money in the same time + triple the profit + triple the rebookings, you could be booked out doing refills at your original price for refills in less than 3 months ..... thats business acumen and thats expansion.

I think i need to smoke a poppit for it all to make sense.

I'm not disputing that by reducing your prices slightly you can make more money in the short term, but my opinion is this:
One tech reduces their prices. A neigbouring tech then reduces theirs, very soon most techs in the area are reducing their prices to remain competitive. What starts with taking a few pounds off your price soon develops into a vicious price war with the tech making very little profit just in order to remain in the market, and you will end up losing out in the long term. Businesses that compete on price alone are businesses that end up going out of business.

My opinion is that if you reduce your prices, you might aswell just tell your client that your new method isn't as good, because thats the message you deliver by reducing your prices.

 

[sarita]

I'm not disputing that by reducing your prices slightly you can make more money in the short term, but my opinion is this:
One tech reduces their prices. A neigbouring tech then reduces theirs, very soon most techs in the area are reducing their prices to remain competitive. What starts with taking a few pounds off your price soon develops into a vicious price war with the tech making very little profit just in order to remain in the market, and you will end up losing out in the long term. Businesses that compete on price alone are businesses that end up going out of business.

My opinion is that if you reduce your prices, you might aswell just tell your client that your new method isn't as good, because thats the message you deliver by reducing your prices.

i totally agree with you 'chelle. Why reduce anything if the end result is just as good or better? Doesnt make sense.

Once techs do this, they will have ruined it for the rest and you devalue something that is not less in quality !! its crazy!

 

[The Geek]

Tech A starts using PopIts and reduces time spent from 1.5 hours to .5 hours
Tech A Charges same for end result thus increasing their earning power on full sets by 300%
Tech A has more time on hands because she is working less hours.

Tech B starts using PopIts and copies same formula as Tech A (same price and all)
Tech B changes price structure to 25% less for PopIts and increases couture set cost by 25%
Tech B increases quantity of people coming in for full sets. In this instance, she is charging less for each service, but making MORE money per day.

Consumers of Tech A wonder why they are paying 25% more the identical service in an otherwise comparable salon. Consumers of Tech A skip over to Tech B.

This will happen over a period of time because that is how commercialism works.

For consumers the only additional value you will be offering is speed.
For professionals, the increased value is speed and an increase in revenue.
If you opt not to share the increased value, others will which will ultimately hurt your business.

In the long run, you will make significantly more money by pricing PopIts sets slightly lower than you charge for a couture set and by increasing the cost of your couture set.

This will generate more interest, more clients (as you will be targeting a new demographic) and a stronger, healthier, more profitable business.

 

[Vetty]

In the long run, you will make significantly more money by pricing PopIts sets slightly lower than you charge for a couture set and by increasing the cost of your couture set.

This will generate more interest, more clients (as you will be targeting a new demographic) and a stronger, healthier, more profitable business.

I understand your advice on pricing but here's the issue for me - what makes a couture set better (and worth more) than a Poppit set?? So when a consumer rings and asks what I do, how much etc. what do I say?? I know I sound really thick here, but I'm struggling a bit with what makes my couture nails worth the extra.....

Cheers guys!

 

[blossom]

I understand your advice on pricing but here's the issue for me - what makes a couture set better (and worth more) than a Poppit set?? So when a consumer rings and asks what I do, how much etc. what do I say?? I know I sound really thick here, but I'm struggling a bit with what makes my couture nails worth the extra.....

Cheers guys!

My thoughts exactly.

If a PopIt set is all it's cracked up to be, where is the advantage in anyone ever booking for a couture set?

 

[The Geek]

Easy, you have far more flexibility in design with a couture set and as such, you will be able to cover a broader spectrum of work (i.e. fan shaped nails, longer nails, etc...). People always love custom and couture and hence there will always be a market for it.

Here is one for you... Why do a couture set trying to duplicate something a popit does? Why spend 3 times longer for a result that won't be nearly as consistently designed?

I am not advocating that everyone drops couture for PopIts. I'm a die hard sculptor and hand craftsman - however I won't poo-poo a new concept just because it's 'threatening'. Ill find a way to make the most of it Who knows if this will totally change the way enhancements are created or if it will be a temporary fad that doesnt really take off (my money is on the former rather than the latter). Keep an open mind and try to get a little excited seeing possibilities. Then again, I'm generally a 'Beer is half full' kind of guy!

 

[Vetty]

Easy, you have far more flexibility in design with a couture set and as such, you will be able to cover a broader spectrum of work (i.e. fan shaped nails, longer nails, etc...). People always love custom and couture and hence there will always be a market for it.

Here is one for you... Why do a couture set trying to duplicate something a popit does? Why spend 3 times longer for a result that won't be nearly as consistently designed?

I am not advocating that everyone drops couture for PopIts. I'm a die hard sculptor and hand craftsman - however I won't poo-poo a new concept just because it's 'threatening'. Ill find a way to make the most of it Who knows if this will totally change the way enhancements are created or if it will be a temporary fad that doesnt really take off (my money is on the former rather than the latter). Keep an open mind and try to get a little excited seeing possibilities. Then again, I'm generally a 'Beer is half full' kind of guy!

I am excited about the possibilities, but I'm looking from a marketing point of view! I haven't seen PopIts yet, and I'm doing my L+P masters, so I have the capabilities to have both PopIt and Couture on my menu...... With that in mind, when a consumer rings for an appt I need to know how much time to book - how would I explain the key differences between the 2 methods? Also, how do I recommend 1 over the other? These are the main issues I need to get straight in my head!

Sorry if I look negative - I'm not, honest!! It's not about being resistant to something new but understanding how I work it into my business.....

 

[pure]

Easy, you have far more flexibility in design with a couture set and as such, you will be able to cover a broader spectrum of work (i.e. fan shaped nails, longer nails, etc...). People always love custom and couture and hence there will always be a market for it.

Now heres a problem as far as I can see. For those clients who have 'normal' shaped nails, they will be able to benefit from having a cheaper service by using Popits. But for anyone who has nails which don't conform to the norm will have to pay extra to have couture nails.

Now that doesn't seem right that we will charge more for those who by a quirk of fate have a different shaped nail. If it were me I'm sure I wouldn't be too happy to be told that my nails will cost me more because of their shape.

 

[pazzy]

I have ordered a box of popits, havent seen the demo but decided I must have some - Im spoilt like that!!

Anyway - Im going to reduce the cost of a full set by £5 only. Its very affordable and I can do a few sets at 1 house (I'm mobile) and will still walk away with more money for the same time - for me its a no brainer.

I am actually going to be the same as the nss. I'm not cheapening the service but just making it work for me.


I'm hoping that I can use the popits more than couture sets - I have lost my drive for them even though I used to love doing them.