Room renting contract

[champagne]

Hi All

I hope I have posted in the right place....

I am currently renting a room (no contract).

2 of the girls from the salon are taking over the lease of the salon to include my room.

I would like a contract to cover myself ie: my business, renting, equipment (which all belongs to me), hours I work etc....

I dont really know how to make it all legal & above board to ensure that I cover my interests if it all goes wrong for them.

They have suggested that we both list what we want in the contract.

Thanks as always

 

[champagne]

Has anyone else got a rent a room contract??

 

[champagne]

Anyone????

 

[redsadie]

Hi hun

You'll probably see someone has posted and think 'yippee!' but I'm sorry I have no ideas. I too have a room with no contract (and no rent) but the salon owner is about to open a second shop with someone else going in financially, and I'm not sure whether the other partner will want to make me pay rent to help cover the new costs. So I guess I'm in roughly the same boat as you sweet.

Sorry I have no advice. I'm sure someone will come along with some, they usually do

xx

 

[femmefan]

Just bumping this up 'cos I'm interested in any replies. Do contracts have to be done by solicitors? Anyone got any stories of things they wish they'd put in a contract?

 

[champagne]

Thanks Guys.... Theres not much info around regarding this issue & i'm sure many people must be renting rooms....

Come on Geeks someone must know something x

 

[femmefan]

I think they've all gone to sleep on us :lol:

 

[Fitz]

Its a very tricky subject which really requires some serious Legal Advice, that is why I would say you are not going to read what you want to read on here. If I was you two, I would do this:

1. Jot some ideas as to what you want in the Contract.

2. Contact a Solicitor as to see if you can use your ideas.

3. If you use a Solictor, don't forget most will give you Half an Hour free. With this I would prepare as much as possible before visiting them.

4. When there use the time to get advice and thrash out what should and cannot be in the contract.

5. Before you leave ask the Solicitor if they could prepare a draft and if its what you want you will pay to have it drawn up legally.

Please note: Many of these Contracts are really not worth the paper they are written on hence why the content needs to be realistic and not deemed to being unfair. I would actually have the contract drawn up with both parties together along with an impartial Solicitor aboard also. This way you could possibly split the cost and thrash out exactly what both will be happy with within the contracts contents. This of course could be hard work getting all parties together, certainly give it a try though.

Steve

 

[champagne]

Thx that sounds like what Im going to have to do.......

I basically want to be covered so that my business does not get tied into theirs if they go bust or anything.....

Would I be regarded as a seperate business, i am registered for tax & self employed in my own right ?

Would my fixtures & fittings be classed as my own therefore not be touched or included with their salon?

This is the only real reason behind me wanting a contract, if i am 'stand alone' then i wont need one.

 

[Fitz]

Thx that sounds like what Im going to have to do.......

I basically want to be covered so that my business does not get tied into theirs if they go bust or anything.....

Would I be regarded as a seperate business, i am registered for tax & self employed in my own right ?

Would my fixtures & fittings be classed as my own therefore not be touched or included with their salon?

This is the only real reason behind me wanting a contract, if i am 'stand alone' then i wont need one.

I basically want to be covered so that my business does not get tied into theirs if they go bust or anything..... Thats fair enough and would be expected.

Would I be regarded as a seperate business, i am registered for tax & self employed in my own right ? Yes you would and thats the way you want it I would suggest.

Would my fixtures & fittings be classed as my own therefore not be touched or included with their salon? Yes, I would have thought definately

 

[femmefan]

Its a very tricky subject which really requires some serious Legal Advice, that is why I would say you are not going to read what you want to read on here. If I was you two, I would do this:

1. Jot some ideas as to what you want in the Contract.

2. Contact a Solicitor as to see if you can use your ideas.

3. If you use a Solictor, don't forget most will give you Half an Hour free. With this I would prepare as much as possible before visiting them.

4. When there use the time to get advice and thrash out what should and cannot be in the contract.

5. Before you leave ask the Solicitor if they could prepare a draft and if its what you want you will pay to have it drawn up legally.

Please note: Many of these Contracts are really not worth the paper they are written on hence why the content needs to be realistic and not deemed to being unfair. I would actually have the contract drawn up with both parties together along with an impartial Solicitor aboard also. This way you could possibly split the cost and thrash out exactly what both will be happy with within the contracts contents. This of course could be hard work getting all parties together, certainly give it a try though.

Steve

I think I may have been misunderstood. Ideas of things that would be useful to have included is what I am looking for - not a copy of an actual contract. For example, until reading posts in this forum I would never have thought about someone else being able to use a room I was already renting without me being informed, but now I understand that 'exclusive' use would need to be specifically agreed upon and preferably in writing. Any other grey areas to be aware of would be helpful.

Btw, could you explain what you mean about 'not being worth the paper they're written on'? Surely if you have an agreement or contract drawn up by a solicitor then it gives both parties some protection?

Cheers,
Hazel

 

[andi]

Dont' know if this is any help but I a similar thing has happened to me where my original contract was with one party and they then leased the building and business to a facilator who now want to change my terms and conditions. I am currently seeking advice from my local small business advice service and they are dealing with all the paperwork and contract etc. Perhaps you could give them a call first to see if they can help you draw a up a contract before you get it checked by a solicitor.

 

[Fitz]

I think I may have been misunderstood. Ideas of things that would be useful to have included is what I am looking for - not a copy of an actual contract. For example, until reading posts in this forum I would never have thought about someone else being able to use a room I was already renting without me being informed, but now I understand that 'exclusive' use would need to be specifically agreed upon and preferably in writing. Any other grey areas to be aware of would be helpful.

Btw, could you explain what you mean about 'not being worth the paper they're written on'? Surely if you have an agreement or contract drawn up by a solicitor then it gives both parties some protection?

Cheers,
Hazel

I know what you said but really those ideas should come from yourself and what exactly you want from the Business you are making the contract for. Tbh you really shouldn't be on here looking for those ideas as its about you and your other party, this is why I suggested: I would actually have the contract drawn up with both parties together along with an impartial Solicitor aboard also. In other words its got to be between you and them and the Business, if you start incorporated ideas from forums or anywhere else this is when problems will start.

Regarding my comment: 'not being worth the paper they're written on'
Its true, they are not simply because they are easily breakable and very hard to enforce when they are broken. Just say for example; the person you have the contract with decides to break it, what will you then do - Spend 5k or maybe more with a Solicitor trying to enforce it? No I don't think so either hence my comment.

 

[YSL]

Hi all... am new here but for my sins am a Solicitor specialising in hair, beauty and spa!

I would say this wouldnt I (!) but seeing a solicitor will help, even just initially, to try to focus down on the real issues because we/they are trained to sort out the wheat from the chaff (even though public perception might say the opposite).

With our salons we use consultancy agreements for this type of thing- but you are always going to hit problems with exclusivity because then strictly we are into realms of a formal Lease.... happy to chat...