Klassy Klaws
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Here is a pic of the article:hug:
Stick on nails
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Joannesnails
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To be honest im not really annoyed or angry at the article that marion wrote about the broadway nails as these nails do only last a matter of hours if you carefull enough maybe a few days..And i dont think at all that this would lose any custom for nail technicians as people do like there nails to last long no matter how much it costs!
As a few others said its like boots hair dye's i use them to dye my hair i wouldnt go to a hair dresser to have the same colour put on my hair...But when i want my hair cut or high lights i will go to the hairdresser. Its like now there are high lighting kits now i know that these kits are not as good as a hairdresser and sometimes can make your hair go the wrong colour which means 80% of the time they will go to their hairdresser to get it fixed!
Its right there is a huge retail market out there with everything within beauty there are waxing kits from veet theres self tan lotions in which i must say i used to use myself but it never went on nice at all i always ended up streaky and didnt last longer than a few days.. but now i have spray tans
You've just got to think people will use these products but they do know where there best off and thats with a professional and if something was to go wrong or not last long you will be always the person they will fall back on.And when they do come to you after using the retail products they will realise who is best and what product is best and thats yours!
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As a few others said its like boots hair dye's i use them to dye my hair i wouldnt go to a hair dresser to have the same colour put on my hair...But when i want my hair cut or high lights i will go to the hairdresser. Its like now there are high lighting kits now i know that these kits are not as good as a hairdresser and sometimes can make your hair go the wrong colour which means 80% of the time they will go to their hairdresser to get it fixed!
Its right there is a huge retail market out there with everything within beauty there are waxing kits from veet theres self tan lotions in which i must say i used to use myself but it never went on nice at all i always ended up streaky and didnt last longer than a few days.. but now i have spray tans
You've just got to think people will use these products but they do know where there best off and thats with a professional and if something was to go wrong or not last long you will be always the person they will fall back on.And when they do come to you after using the retail products they will realise who is best and what product is best and thats yours!
xx:hug:
geeg
Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek
There is no one in the nail industry who is more respected, trusted and listened to by the journalists than Marian Newman. She has represented our industry to them brilliantly.
She has for years stood by, and continues to stand by, the professionals in our industry who do great work and who look after their clients and their natural nails.
Unfortunately, there are 100 to 1 nail technicians 'out there' who do NOT look after the health of their clients nails and who do inferior work, which is overwhelming odds against a journalist or anyone else ever being able to see the 'good' side of the nail industry that Marian promotes.
She has bashed her head against a brick wall for years on the professionals' behalf and guess what??? She has been let down ... by the pros, by the suppliers (who sell professional products to anyone despite what some of them claim) and the 'so called' professionals!
Our industry is in a hell of a state and our credibility is pretty thin and there are not many who respect what we do because of WHAT THEY SEE HAPPENING TO THE NAILS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WEAR ENHANCEMENTS. I know I know!! Not all of us have clients whose nails are abused underneath their enhancements but MOST PEOPLE DOING NAILS DO NOT NURTURE THEIR CLIENTS' NATURAL NAILS AND THAT IS A FACT. This abuse is what the journalists see the most of which is why, as Marian said, "they do not want to know." they just do not believe that wearing enhancements can be healthy.
Many of us have applied ‘stickons’ to clients nails for them, and done it well. So why the horror about it? Marian, as far as I can see in her statement (you can hardly call it an article) was not promoting DIY nails. It was Marian the professional who was applying them wasn’t it?
And listen to what the celebrity said??? THEY LOOK MORE NATURAL … Well why do they??? Because the majority of nail technicians continue to apply ugly or long fake porn star looking nails … many companies promote this look despite the fact that IT’S NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR. If clients can’t get what they want from you the professionals then they will get it somewhere else.
So maybe the message to all of us should be to make ourselves as nail technicians stand out from the ‘crowd’ by being the ones who DO look after their clients nails and who DO nails that look beautiful and natural. Because I’ll tell you what .. it is those type of technicians who are making the money in their salons, not the 100 who can’t seem to get clients, keep clients or make any money out of their business.
She has for years stood by, and continues to stand by, the professionals in our industry who do great work and who look after their clients and their natural nails.
Unfortunately, there are 100 to 1 nail technicians 'out there' who do NOT look after the health of their clients nails and who do inferior work, which is overwhelming odds against a journalist or anyone else ever being able to see the 'good' side of the nail industry that Marian promotes.
She has bashed her head against a brick wall for years on the professionals' behalf and guess what??? She has been let down ... by the pros, by the suppliers (who sell professional products to anyone despite what some of them claim) and the 'so called' professionals!
Our industry is in a hell of a state and our credibility is pretty thin and there are not many who respect what we do because of WHAT THEY SEE HAPPENING TO THE NAILS OF THE PEOPLE WHO WEAR ENHANCEMENTS. I know I know!! Not all of us have clients whose nails are abused underneath their enhancements but MOST PEOPLE DOING NAILS DO NOT NURTURE THEIR CLIENTS' NATURAL NAILS AND THAT IS A FACT. This abuse is what the journalists see the most of which is why, as Marian said, "they do not want to know." they just do not believe that wearing enhancements can be healthy.
Many of us have applied ‘stickons’ to clients nails for them, and done it well. So why the horror about it? Marian, as far as I can see in her statement (you can hardly call it an article) was not promoting DIY nails. It was Marian the professional who was applying them wasn’t it?
And listen to what the celebrity said??? THEY LOOK MORE NATURAL … Well why do they??? Because the majority of nail technicians continue to apply ugly or long fake porn star looking nails … many companies promote this look despite the fact that IT’S NOT WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR. If clients can’t get what they want from you the professionals then they will get it somewhere else.
So maybe the message to all of us should be to make ourselves as nail technicians stand out from the ‘crowd’ by being the ones who DO look after their clients nails and who DO nails that look beautiful and natural. Because I’ll tell you what .. it is those type of technicians who are making the money in their salons, not the 100 who can’t seem to get clients, keep clients or make any money out of their business.
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Joannesnails
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Geeg thats very true what your saying there!:hug:
Some people have had bad experiance with nail technicians in the past most of my friends have like the salon round the corner to me..they take no care or pride in their customers AT ALL
My friend went to have a full set of acyrlics in there she come home didnt really do anything forcfull and the day after a nail fell off she went back to show them and kindly ask them to replace the nail for free....They wouldnt! they said she had to pay and that it was her fault when it wasnt. Which this makes me feel better as a nail tehnician as i know not many people will go to them they will come to me.
Some people have had bad experiance with nail technicians in the past most of my friends have like the salon round the corner to me..they take no care or pride in their customers AT ALL
My friend went to have a full set of acyrlics in there she come home didnt really do anything forcfull and the day after a nail fell off she went back to show them and kindly ask them to replace the nail for free....They wouldnt! they said she had to pay and that it was her fault when it wasnt. Which this makes me feel better as a nail tehnician as i know not many people will go to them they will come to me.
Kooky
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I think there is a place for stick on nails. Not saying we should reccommend them, but inform our clients how to safely apply and remove them to cause minimum damage.
If i was going out for one night and wanted nice nails, or a wedding or for any other occasion, and had to remove them after because of my job etc., i wouldn't go and pay x amount to have a prof set applied, and then pay x amount to have them prof removed. That's nuts!
Some people can't afford it. Everyone should wise up to reality, accept that stick ons are here to stay, and use them to an advantage, ignorance is not always bliss!
If i was going out for one night and wanted nice nails, or a wedding or for any other occasion, and had to remove them after because of my job etc., i wouldn't go and pay x amount to have a prof set applied, and then pay x amount to have them prof removed. That's nuts!
Some people can't afford it. Everyone should wise up to reality, accept that stick ons are here to stay, and use them to an advantage, ignorance is not always bliss!
geeg
Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek
I would not be teaching my clients how to apply them but I certainly would offer to do it for them at a much cheaper cost than nail enhancment.
Kooky
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That is kinda what i meant, not really awake yet! Use them to our advantage, if there is bigger business in stick ons than prof nail exts. why not offer prof applied stick ons at a much cheaper cost?
They would prob stay on longer than if the client applied them at home, and their rep would improve as would ours!
They would prob stay on longer than if the client applied them at home, and their rep would improve as would ours!
beautynails
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I really have to agree with this.
Everybody is up in arms saying they cause damage..........now come on people how many times have we heard the same said of acrylic products?
It is when they are incorrectly applied or removed that causes the problem.
geeg
Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek
You are right, but I would also add, it's the length of time that women wear them too. They allow them to become infested with bacteria and can have all sorts of awful damage to their nails.
Let the professionals apply them if that is really what they want and get the job done properly, safely and cleanly.
But that wasn't said in the quote....nothing about how they should be used safely....nothing about still visiting your professional nail techs....nothing ... just what brand, how much and how she and her clients love them.
Thats just selling...promoting isn't it....?
Thats just selling...promoting isn't it....?
lotus blossom
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:grr: is it only angie and i, that feel let down by this,
gigi, would you do the same in marians shoes???
beacuse marian has the media at her feet so to speak, doesnt she speak for all pro technicians and should have at least thought about the impact that this has on our industry?
its difficult enough to cope with all the media promoting otc products,
to then actually get your clients in the salon in the first place, then spending enormous amounts of times educating your clients, as there is no media coverage to back up, what us technicians are actually trying to tell our clients
and now this
back to square one
i give up
sorry but again i feel very let down
Joannesnails
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I think is is a no win debate going on....
mum
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But you don't know what I said and who I said it to. You obviously believe everything you read in the 'red top' press!
I'm not going to go any further as it will sound (to some people) like an excuse or an apology and it isn't. What I said quite some time ago is a very different thing but I'm not going to winge. It's what happens when you get quoted.
And who is the one disappointed here? Some of you because I can keep 'nails' looking good (in more ways than one) and in the consumer mind in the media press? Or me because everytime a manage to persuade a beauty journalist to go and get their nails done they come back and show me the results. Maybe you have a better idea why enhanced nails are rarely written about!
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