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Licensing, as most people understand it, is not going to happen in this country. The government made it very clear a long time ago that it is up to each industry sector to look after itself.

There may be a possibility of some type of regulation that is organised by the Industry Authority, Habia. I am involved with it and, believe me, you will be the first to hear about it if it is possible!

With regard to Vietnamese, singling out one nationality is most definitely racist! There are very good and very bad salons run by all races including plenty of the English variety!

As it happens I visited a Vietnamese school yesterday. This has a vast number of students most of who are already working. They are going to school to relearn what they have been taught and to gain an NVQ. They want to fit in with this culture and standards. They all spoke English and had a fantastic standard of work. The teachers there are experienced English technicians and both teachers and students care very much. (Plus no MMA in sight!)

As many of you have already answered: education is the key
 
I personally think you have to be very careful not to be seen as generalising, being racist, bitter or jealous.

I have seen and know some brilliant Vietnamese technicians.

In fact some would wipe the floor with you in about half the time, how do you feel about that reality?

I do know what you are saying, I know your frustration, but you are going about it in the wrong manner.

Beat people by being "better", not "bitter".

What I find interesting is the fact you use the words "loyal customers", loyal customers don't complain, unsatisfied customers complain.

Your post doesn't read right, doesn't feel right and seems to have a different motive than what is initially intended.

If all what you say is true, after 2 years in the business, apparently doing better work, better this, better that, why are you not doing better, rather than complaining?
 
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As Mum said, licensing isn't going to happen in the UK or most other countries in Europe. It requires political will and it's too small an issue for the dolts in Westminster to give their time to (the priority being to find new ways to overcome the expenses system). Also, licensing without a strong inspection system is toothless, and local governments aren't going to pay for more Health and Safety inspectors.

As Mum also said - and pretty much any industry expert that I've spoken to agrees - education is the key. The best nail techs make money. So it's up to you guys to develop your skills and knowledge so that customers can see and value the difference. If the customers can't see the difference - then you need to change. Yes, this is extra work - but running your own business is. And any successful business invests in itself and also finds a way to differentiate what it offers from the competition. Being perceived as a specialist is the best example of this.

In fact, perhaps we should be greatfull to the low cost salons - after all it is they that made the market bigger for all of us! Because of them you have more potential customers as some people look for an alternative!



Bob
 
For Racism point:

If there's any of Vietnamese seeing this post and he or she doesn't like that and etc., this can be used as a subject of discrimination against race for sure.

As a lawyer, I recommend there should be someone whom involved standing out for apologise of this.

Are you Professional?
 
i have no problem with any race of nail tech, if they are doing a good job, full trained and know there thing, i have just lost my job my boss had 2 salons one on very busy high street she had been there 6 years in her own salon n on the high street for 10 years in a hair dressers before she had the salon! always very busy! there was one nns when she started off which was fine but over the years in the space of 30 shops there are now 6 nns salons, there where 4 english run salon which have all closed down in the last 2 month cos veryone is going to the nns salons! as they are quick but not much cheaper! but i have had so many clients in the salon i worked in which is abotu 5 miles away from the high street. that have been in the nns salon have come in the infections under there nails, holes from drills in there nail plates, had one crying as she had just had them put on n they cut her cuctical area so much she was in so much pain! every client say the think the nns salons are so bad, they are un clean, just alfull! i think some thing need to be done about them! i know we all hate drills but there are many english nail techs that use drills as well!
so you cant win every thing!!!!! x
 
For Racism point:

If there's any of Vietnamese seeing this post and he or she doesn't like that and etc., this can be used as a subject of discrimination against race for sure.

As a lawyer, I recommend there should be someone whom involved standing out for apologise of this.

Are you Professional?

I totally agree with Yuri, and am glad that the majority of posters have picked up on the unecessary use of a salons ethnicity in this thread.



Licensing, as most people understand it, is not going to happen in this country. The government made it very clear a long time ago that it is up to each industry sector to look after itself.

There may be a possibility of some type of regulation that is organised by the Industry Authority, Habia. I am involved with it and, believe me, you will be the first to hear about it if it is possible!

With regard to Vietnamese, singling out one nationality is most definitely racist! There are very good and very bad salons run by all races including plenty of the English variety!

As it happens I visited a Vietnamese school yesterday. This has a vast number of students most of who are already working. They are going to school to relearn what they have been taught and to gain an NVQ. They want to fit in with this culture and standards. They all spoke English and had a fantastic standard of work. The teachers there are experienced English technicians and both teachers and students care very much. (Plus no MMA in sight!)

As many of you have already answered: education is the key

I don't know how new to the site the thread starter is but to be honest a simple search on non standard salons NSS would have gleaned all the information required, as this subject has been discussed many times, and sadly some of them have had a racist slant to them too.

Further to this...I really don't see that anything further can be gained from continuing this thread as mum has given us all the definitive answer, quoted above.

All that can be gained now is for us to voice our distaste at the ignorance and racism involved in this issue....and where will that lead?
 
I really don't see that anything further can be gained from continuing this thread as mum has given us all the definitive answer, quoted above.

All that can be gained now is for us to voice our distaste at the ignorance and racism involved in this issue....and where will that lead?
I agree and think that we can "put this one to bed" now, so to speak :wink2:


Clunk, click, closed :green:
 
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