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hey!
im a nail technician who went to a salon this week and had a hopi ear done! once they opened the candle there was a small amount of wax but alot of powder! when i asked the therapist what the powder she had no idea... great help!!

does anyone know what it means or is it a normal thing??

thanks michelle
 
Yes this is perfectly normal. As the candle burns down it doesn't always burn away all the candle, some gets deposited as the powder above the filter (assuming a Biosun candle was used). The wax inside is not from the ear, this is the same process - it doesn't all burn away sometimes.

There is circumstantial evidence that indicates that the greater the amount of residue left the more of a problem in the ear passages or head. There have been no formal studies into this that I am aware of, this is based on the experience of therapists who practice this treatment regularly.

So yes, this is common and nothing to be worried about.

mat
 
Lets not let this thread degenerate into another flame war of those who like them and those who don't!!

Some people like them as a treatment and find them effective. I, along with many others, enjoy them as a relaxing pleasent sensation that may or may not have a therapeutic benefit. Others don't like them, don't get them - thats fine. Can we let those who use them use them and discuss their use without getting shouted down, and those who don't like them continue to not like them but respect the opinions of those who do!

Thanks
Mat
 
It has nothing to do with not liking them, they look great on a birthday cake ......

It's the scientific evidence and research that I look at, just like any nail, hair or skin product .... and the evidence states candling is rubbish.

It's Your Health - Ear Candling

If I was comfortable enough, I could relax with a 70 watt lightbulb screwed into my ear (then I would have no need for a candle).
 
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Lets not let this thread degenerate into another flame war of those who like them and those who don't!!

Some people like them as a treatment and find them effective. I, along with many others, enjoy them as a relaxing pleasent sensation that may or may not have a therapeutic benefit. Others don't like them, don't get them - thats fine. Can we let those who use them use them and discuss their use without getting shouted down, and those who don't like them continue to not like them but respect the opinions of those who do!

Thanks
Mat

I agree with Fozzyo.

My pal's husband had probs with his ears since he was a child, lots of pain and wax, anyway his doctor said he should try ear candling as there was nothing the NHS could do for him. He has had four treatments so far and has never felt better, all the pain he had has gone, so I for one am convinced that for some people they work.

Trish :hug:
 
It has nothing to do with not liking them, they look great on a birthday cake ......

It's the scientific evidence and research that I look at, just like any nail, hair or skin product .... and the evidence states candling is rubbish.

If I was comfortable enough, I could relax with a 70 watt lightbulb screwed into my ear (then I would have no need for a candle).



I AM trying to keep a straight face and be serious......I personally like the treatment.....but you are naughty and do make me giggle!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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this is soooooo boring, and quite frankly rude to keep on doing this nailzoo.
 
Quick get this thread closed...Those evil,dangerous ear candles shouldn't even be being discussed.
 
don't worry gillian, for some reason just the mention of the word gets these threads closed and its all for the same reason.
 
This is getting so bad:eek:
Everyone has thier own opinions so let it just be that and not turn this thread into world war 3:grr:
Live and let live:hug:
 
this is soooooo boring, and quite frankly rude to keep on doing this nailzoo.
I agree, really some people have different beliefs than others, so just let them get on with the discussion!

Lets watch this thread get closed AGAIN because its been hijacked!

xxxxxx:hug:
 
Ok before this thread gets closed...Id like to know if ear candeling has any side affects? xx
 
Not really a side effect but a risk - the risk of burning yourself. Make sure you cover your head around the area just in case any embers etc fall on you or if the candle burns down too far.

Another thing would be if you tried to push the candle too far down into your ear.

So long as the instructions are followed you'll be ok
 
OK OK is the answer to the question being addressed? without swearing and aggression??

Not from what I have read?
 
OK OK is the answer to the question being addressed? without swearing and aggression??

Not from what I have read?

No swearing that I have seen, the question is been addressed if the links are read.

IN A NUTSHELL NOTHING COMES OUT OF THE EAR INTO THE CANDLE.
Here's a cut and paste from another site.

The Claims Vs. The Truth


The major benefit touted for ear candles is that they can remove cerumen and other debris from deep within the ear canal through the way in which they burn. Supposedly there is a negative pressure, or spiral effect, created within the ear that draws cerumen and debris up and out of the ear.


DeMeo reports in the Skeptical Inquirer that there are two simple tests that disprove the claims made regarding ear candles, however.2 The first can be done by inserting a piece of weighted wax (preferably human) into a small test tube. The test tube is heated in a hot water bath to the human body temperature. An ear candle is placed into the test tube and is lit. The flame is extinguished when the candle has burned about half way. Examination of the test tube indicates no change to the wax inside-it is neither pulled up the test tube toward the candle, nor does it enter the candle.


When the end of the candle is torn open, one can observe residue inside. Internet Web sites claim that this residue is from the ear canal; however, the test described by DeMeo showed that the residue originates from the candle itself. This fact is proven by a second test, where the above procedure is done with an empty test tube. When the candle is cut open, the residue is still present, indicating that its origin is from the candle, not the wax.2


Further, Dryer stated that in order for negative pressure to remove cerumen from the ear, the force would have to be so great that it would rupture the tympanic membrane.3 Research has confirmed that no negative pressure is created by a burning ear candle, so any source claiming or suggesting such a notion is false.



Along with the fact that ear candling does nothing to remove wax and debris, the procedure poses a significant danger to the participant. The one study that looked at the efficacy and safety of ear candling in a scientific way appears in Laryngoscope in l996. The authors conclude the following:
  • Candling does not produce negative pressure in the outer ear canal.
  • The procedure removes no cerumen from the outer ear canal.
  • In a survey of 122 otolaryngologists, 30 complications were reported, including 13 burns of the auricle and outer ear canal, seven partial or complete occlusions of the ear canal with candle wax, one tympanic perforation, three cases of external otitis, and six cases of temporary hearing loss.
  • Analysis of the debris left from the candling showed a sample composed of multiple alkines, which are found in candle wax.4
The authors stated that candling is of "no proven benefit in the measurement of cerumen and may produce a number of complications that require conventional medical treatment."4


These conclusions were echoed by Ernst.5 He deemed ear candles dangerous and ineffective for any condition, and concluded that ear candles do more harm than good. He felt their use should be discouraged


It's from ADVANCE for Audiologists | Editorial THESE LINKS REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT
 
Honestly, this really is about difference of opinion!
Reflexology is benficial to some peeps, where to others it is not! Ear Candling is beneficial to some where to others it is not!

Imho it doesnt matter if it is 'proven' not to work, some love it, and aslong as they do and it is not harming anyone in the process, I really dont see the problem do you?

These links can be posted again and again, but I dont think the therapists on here will take any notice, as they offer and champion ear candling.

My reflexology therapist swears by it, she finds it relaxing and she says it helps her hearing.

Live and let live guys, lets try and keep this thread open, for therapists who are professionaly trained to do ear candling to discuss it!

Peace brothers (and sisters! )

xxxx:hug:
 
No swearing that I have seen, the question is been addressed if the links are read.

IN A NUTSHELL NOTHING COMES OUT OF THE EAR INTO THE CANDLE.
Here's a cut and paste from another site.

The Claims Vs. The Truth


The major benefit touted for ear candles is that they can remove cerumen and other debris from deep within the ear canal through the way in which they burn. Supposedly there is a negative pressure, or spiral effect, created within the ear that draws cerumen and debris up and out of the ear.


DeMeo reports in the Skeptical Inquirer that there are two simple tests that disprove the claims made regarding ear candles, however.2 The first can be done by inserting a piece of weighted wax (preferably human) into a small test tube. The test tube is heated in a hot water bath to the human body temperature. An ear candle is placed into the test tube and is lit. The flame is extinguished when the candle has burned about half way. Examination of the test tube indicates no change to the wax inside-it is neither pulled up the test tube toward the candle, nor does it enter the candle.


When the end of the candle is torn open, one can observe residue inside. Internet Web sites claim that this residue is from the ear canal; however, the test described by DeMeo showed that the residue originates from the candle itself. This fact is proven by a second test, where the above procedure is done with an empty test tube. When the candle is cut open, the residue is still present, indicating that its origin is from the candle, not the wax.2


Further, Dryer stated that in order for negative pressure to remove cerumen from the ear, the force would have to be so great that it would rupture the tympanic membrane.3 Research has confirmed that no negative pressure is created by a burning ear candle, so any source claiming or suggesting such a notion is false.



Along with the fact that ear candling does nothing to remove wax and debris, the procedure poses a significant danger to the participant. The one study that looked at the efficacy and safety of ear candling in a scientific way appears in Laryngoscope in l996. The authors conclude the following:
  • Candling does not produce negative pressure in the outer ear canal.
  • The procedure removes no cerumen from the outer ear canal.
  • In a survey of 122 otolaryngologists, 30 complications were reported, including 13 burns of the auricle and outer ear canal, seven partial or complete occlusions of the ear canal with candle wax, one tympanic perforation, three cases of external otitis, and six cases of temporary hearing loss.
  • Analysis of the debris left from the candling showed a sample composed of multiple alkines, which are found in candle wax.4
The authors stated that candling is of "no proven benefit in the measurement of cerumen and may produce a number of complications that require conventional medical treatment."4


These conclusions were echoed by Ernst.5 He deemed ear candles dangerous and ineffective for any condition, and concluded that ear candles do more harm than good. He felt their use should be discouraged


It's from ADVANCE for Audiologists | Editorial THESE LINKS REALLY SHOULD BE LOOKED AT

Here we go again lol

I think there are things that there is no scentific proof they work or why but people will swear by them. It would be good if we could let the people who believe in these candles post their experiences on them we are all allow our opinions and I am sure they have read all the links you provide but still wish to discuss this matter.

So lets give them some slack :hug:
 
If I was comfortable enough, I could relax with a 70 watt lightbulb screwed into my ear (then I would have no need for a candle).
Would it be a candle shaped bulb Carl:green::green::green:
 
i understand this, but what if we were talking a nail product and the truth versus faith you guys would be jumping all over the joint?

My links are the truth and scientific analysis of this product, seems odd there is no scientific proof proving the positive aspects .... can anyone prove these links wrong with an educated opinion/or from someone educated, that doesn't rely on faith alone ? ......... anyone .... anything? And can someone back it up that doesn't sell them or do the service based on profit? Sure there are people claiming benefits, yet no backup proof that doesn't seem to be purely placebo.

Many get on my back about candling, yet nobody has offered a proven counter argument (not one link based on evidence) ....NOT ONE.

It's not about being right or wrong, I just wanna see some backup by someone respected, as you guys expect from any other product you use.

Or does your/the profit outweigh the obvious evidence against them?
 
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