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Viva Express 1hr spray tan
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I was sprayed with this last night at about 8.30pm,
the spray tech said it was a nightmare as could not see any guide colour or where it was going,
i could feel it on going my skin so knew i was covered correctly,
as i am very pale i was going to wash it off around 10.30pm,
i fell asleep and didn't wake until 4am,
i was not getting a shower at this time so just went to bed,
i woke with very little colour, had a shower early this morning,
and i still don't look like i have a spray tan on, i get a darker result from the 5%,
wont be 24hrs until 8.30pm tonight though.
But isn't the point of paying a premium for this solution supposed to be a 1, 2 or 3 hour tan? Who cares if it is darker after 24 hours? You left it on longer than you should and only got the result of a 5%, when I did my patch tests I left one on for 1 hour and the other on for the 3 hours and nothing developed until the next day and then both very very pale and almost if not the same colour and this is not what the marketing says
I most certainly hope this is not the case as it would enter the blood system and then
..were all finished 
Susie H
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Collin, I now have coffee stains all over my monitor, you are a very bad man:irked::green:
Tell me Susie...how long did it take for the coffee stain to develop...was it 1 hr or eight..was it de cafe or normal,one sugar or two and did you pay a premium to get the stain developing quicker
:lol::lol:Sorry but this whole thread is absolute nonsense and misleading to those that are new and therefore easily mislead :hug:
loubylou
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These are very good points frankey,
it was a genuine mistake that i fell asleep :smack: and as i am connected to another brand of solution i did not want to come online and bad mouth the aviva solution as that would not be playing fair as they were good enough to supply me a sample even though they knew who i was,
so i saw it as fair to just tell of the experience truthfully without giving an opinion, only my findings, hth
I think my post came accross a bit sharp there, sorry. lol I wasn't reprimanding you for falling asleep in it! And totally understand where you are coming from - I was trying to say that to me this solution doesn't seem to do anything other than what any of the other solutions do but you pay a premium price for it (infact in the case of my friend it didn't even do what my usual solution does as she never changed colour in the slightest - not even after 48 hours lol)
Right - I'm off to that large DIY store for some Dark Antique Oak
Right - I'm off to that large DIY store for some Dark Antique Oak
See..you all laugh ......but then sneak off to good old B&Q and get shopping...actually I was there yesterday also..fastest dam development time known to mankind is their juice
:lol::lol::lol:Don't forget to stop by that burger waggon that's invariably parked in the car park....double sausage,egg and bacon bap is just the job after loading the car up with all those different shades of juice :lol::lol::lol:
Can you PM me with how much you spend so I can calculate the effect your credit card will have on my pension :hug:
Susie H
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Tell me Susie...how long did it take for the coffee stain to develop...was it 1 hr or eight..was it de cafe or normal,one sugar or two and did you pay a premium to get the stain developing quicker
Sorry but this whole thread is absolute nonsense and misleading to those that are new and therefore easily mislead :hug:
LOL it was instant, so didn't develop at all, I'm very disappointed:cry:
On a more serious note, Toni Lee and I discussed this very subject.
Would a normal dha of say 12% washed of after a couple of hours do the same thing? Applying normal laws of common sense and chemistry:lol:
We reasoned thus!!
Everyone develops their tan at different rates, my oh, Paul is naturally dark skinned, takes a 12% tan very well but needs to leave it on over night for a good result. I on the other hand go a lovely shade of chavette tango at anything higher then 8% but start to develop a tan within the first 15 mins.
So I would probably do well with the so called new 1 hour tans and Paul would think he'd wasted his money.
Now my question to Collin is:
Do I need to use a bit of wet and dry to key my skin before applying dark oak stain, as I would for the fence or is my normal shower scrunchy enough
loubylou
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I think my post came accross a bit sharp there, sorry. lol I wasn't reprimanding you for falling asleep in it! And totally understand where you are coming from - I was trying to say that to me this solution doesn't seem to do anything other than what any of the other solutions do but you pay a premium price for it (infact in the case of my friend it didn't even do what my usual solution does as she never changed colour in the slightest - not even after 48 hours lol)
Right - I'm off to that large DIY store for some Dark Antique Oak
I didn't take it that way at all hun :hug:
i am usually very out spoken on here so thought i had better explain why i was been so tame lol :lol:
Susie, im sure your scrunchy will do just fine hun :lol:
number1kitty
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Tell me Susie...how long did it take for the coffee stain to develop...was it 1 hr or eight..was it de cafe or normal,one sugar or two and did you pay a premium to get the stain developing quicker
Sorry but this whole thread is absolute nonsense and misleading to those that are new and therefore easily mislead :hug:
It would not have been able to be sold in America if indeed it was dangerous or if it was all lies. They have far stricter criteria.
Aviva Labs and VaniT are not manufactured in the UK. Aviva Labs are manufactured in the USA they only make spray tan solutions for themselves no one else, unlike the manufacturers in the UK that all make for the same people.
If you know your business as well as you like people to think then you know that there is already a product that delivers a tan transdermally that lasts four weeks. The product is currently being trialed and all you need is a small amount sprayed on the arm.
The product is going to be prescription only. However thats not saying that a company cannot find ways to get a product to develop faster, it is and has proven to work.
Again you should know that there is different types and quality of DHA, this affects the tan. There is also many ingredients that manufacturers use in various solutions ALL which have different affects on product penetration and rate of absorbtion etc. I.E alcohol can have a faster absorbtion rate than aloe vera. This is why many tan solutions work differently on different people and have different overall colours. Its more than just throwing a bit of DHA into a carrier.
Spray Tanning is still in its early days, all manufacturers are looking for different ways to develop the solutions to have better atomisation, to be quicker drying and last longer. Certain ingrediants will alter the PH, some will absorb the skin better and some will help the solution work faster. It is all about chemistry and some chemists have developed this quicker than others and this is the case in this instant.
I have already said I am sure Aviva Labs will not be the only tan company selling this, however by your views I see that even when every other company is selling this to offer the tan techs clients a choice you certainly will not be under any circumstance selling a quick developing tan, and that is fine!
I have also said that this solution will not suit everyone, neither will any other one solution, which is why tan techs often offer more than one choice or why clients go else where.
It is not nonsense if it is making clients happy that they dont have to wait 8 hours to develop. I have also admitted that I know of 2 clients out of 40+ that did not develop but believe with them it was their soap. The rest said they loved it and have had the tan every week since.
If clients dont like it then they would not pay for it or request it again. I also dont see why it is wrong that tan technicians can have a chance of being different from their competitiors and earn themselves more money by offering their clients something different!
Its not going to wipe out other tan solutions, but work alongside them as a premium treatment for those clients wanting a tan that day as I am sure many tan techs can relate too.
I dont see how anything can mislead new technicians. surely this forums about allowing them to make an informed choice rather than have one brand shoved down their throats. The information of this thread is balanced, its not all praise, so how thats going to 'mislead' them its beyond me.
You can also argue that certain ingredients added to solutions such as CoQ10 are pointless as they are in such small quantities they won't make a difference etc but they are put in solutions as a way to market it better, same goes for Aloe Vera etc. A lot of things are about marketing your product and ingredients are one way a tan company promotes it self.
If your 'so in' with the big brands then perhaps you can call Aviva Labs directly and let them advise you of the way it works as I am sure they will be more than happy to assist you as you speak to them anyway. I have been asked not to say so will keep to that. I do not make Aviva Labs, I simply use the products myself and have rights in the north west to the them. Its really not for me to spill the beans.
number1kitty
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I did try the theory out that any tan would do the same as I too was skeptical that is just a darker %.
Me and my sisters and B/f tried out the theory. The first week we tried the instant tan. It took well on all but my youngest sister who took 3 hours to develop quite light. My b/f never tans and goes orange with a lot of solutions. He took immediatly but stopped developing at 2 hours. I made him sleep in it and he got no darker.
Mine took really dark within the hour so I washed it off, and my other sister left it 3 hours and she too went very dark.
Last week we tried it with a 12%, I used 3 brands. One on the back, one on the front & one on the legs to check the difference in relation to the absorbtion rate of various products.
My b/f didnt take at all, I took a little bit, my youngest sister had nothing take again and my middle sister had a tan similar to 8% on her legs and the rest washed off.
I think the 8% took on me and my middle sis because of the alcohol. This only happened on our legs, although my torso took a bit but not as dark as my legs, which is weird because my legs never take! I used a proper cheap and nasty solution on my legs too. Made me itch for days!!!
It will vary between everyone. If we were all the same we would not be blessed with so much choice. And the more choice we have as consumers then the better the price will be. Remember back to 2000 when a litre of tan solution was about £70-£80 and machines were around £1200+. Choice and demand has enabled us to pay less for equipment and solutions! This is why I never get bothered about any competitors in my area. I have two tan techs using Aviva Express in my town. I could have refused as then I would have more clients!?! But it acually worked better having another couple of people advertising the solution as I have got new clients from this too.
Me and my sisters and B/f tried out the theory. The first week we tried the instant tan. It took well on all but my youngest sister who took 3 hours to develop quite light. My b/f never tans and goes orange with a lot of solutions. He took immediatly but stopped developing at 2 hours. I made him sleep in it and he got no darker.
Mine took really dark within the hour so I washed it off, and my other sister left it 3 hours and she too went very dark.
Last week we tried it with a 12%, I used 3 brands. One on the back, one on the front & one on the legs to check the difference in relation to the absorbtion rate of various products.
My b/f didnt take at all, I took a little bit, my youngest sister had nothing take again and my middle sister had a tan similar to 8% on her legs and the rest washed off.
I think the 8% took on me and my middle sis because of the alcohol. This only happened on our legs, although my torso took a bit but not as dark as my legs, which is weird because my legs never take! I used a proper cheap and nasty solution on my legs too. Made me itch for days!!!
It will vary between everyone. If we were all the same we would not be blessed with so much choice. And the more choice we have as consumers then the better the price will be. Remember back to 2000 when a litre of tan solution was about £70-£80 and machines were around £1200+. Choice and demand has enabled us to pay less for equipment and solutions! This is why I never get bothered about any competitors in my area. I have two tan techs using Aviva Express in my town. I could have refused as then I would have more clients!?! But it acually worked better having another couple of people advertising the solution as I have got new clients from this too.
See..you all laugh ......but then sneak off to good old B&Q and get shopping...actually I was there yesterday also..fastest dam development time known to mankind is their juice
Don't forget to stop by that burger waggon that's invariably parked in the car park....double sausage,egg and bacon bap is just the job after loading the car up with all those different shades of juice :lol::lol::lol:
Can you PM me with how much you spend so I can calculate the effect your credit card will have on my pension :hug:
God, I bet u have shares in the darn burger van too!
My brother in law owns it :lol::lol::lol:
Now my question to Collin is:
Do I need to use a bit of wet and dry to key my skin before applying dark oak stain, as I would for the fence or is my normal shower scrunchy enough
Lol..you could always try a disc sander..that ought to shift everything
:lol:
Susie H
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My mind is obviously warped, because my first thought on disc sander and shifting everything was that I don't have enough to stick in a bra as it isLol..you could always try a disc sander..that ought to shift everything
But we know how good an orbital sander is for pedicures so.................
Oh darn, we don't have one:green:
Lol..the facts of the matter are that there is nothing on this earth that would make everyone tan at the same rate...so even a fantastic new solution made form secrete ingredients that aren't allowed to be disclosed
will develop at different rates on different individuals.....as ive already said I develop in a matter of minutes whereas another individual may not even start developing even after 4 or 5 hrs(my wife for example...bless her little socks)I am also quiet aware where and by whom both Aviva and VaniT tan solutions are produced as well as their content..its a wonderful thing reverse engineering
What can be sold and is allowable to be sold in the U.S and even if approved by the FDA does not mean that the MHRA here in the UK will allow it.
Both we and many other brands trade across the pond and vice verse ..all of whom have to and do abide by the rulings as set out by the authorities within the country they are doing business..what is legal here may not be there..and vice verse.
In so far as awareness of the industry is concerned...well that's probably a subject matter not worth answering
HTH :hug:
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I'm finding others experiences with this tan not developing strange as it worked so well for me! The only reason I'm holding off buying for now is to see what vani-t's one is like and also because I have vani-t stock to use up first. :hug: I didn't develop properly before the normal time (8 hrs) but being able to wash off after 3 hrs was amazing.
Keep it in the family :green: I'll make sure I call in - are the hot dogs instant?!
number1kitty
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Lol..the facts of the matter are that there is nothing on this earth that would make everyone tan at the same rate...so even a fantastic new solution made form secrete ingredients that aren't allowed to be disclosed
I am also quiet aware where and by whom both Aviva and VaniT tan solutions are produced as well as their content..its a wonderful thing reverse engineering
What can be sold and is allowable to be sold in the U.S and even if approved by the FDA does not mean that the MHRA here in the UK will allow it.
Both we and many other brands trade across the pond and vice verse ..all of whom have to and do abide by the rulings as set out by the authorities within the country they are doing business..what is legal here may not be there..and vice verse.
In so far as awareness of the industry is concerned...well that's probably a subject matter not worth answering
HTH :hug:
:grr: Head ! Wall ! Banging ! Against !
I am unsure where I said this tan had a) a secret ingrediant or b) it would suit everyone????
Nothing can have a 'secret ingediant' as everything has to legally be listed on the bottle.
Kate
